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Old 12-17-2005, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: Senate rejects Patriot Act

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Clearly, the McCain-Feingold Act abridges "freedom of speech, or of the press."

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Clearly anti-fraud laws and defemation claims abridge freedom of speech, or of the press.". They must be unconstitutional, too, right? Oh, wait, they're not. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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Anti-fraud and defamation laws are totally different animals from normal political speech. You have no right to harm other people through your speech. But endorsing a political candidate is not harming anyone.
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:03 PM
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Default Re: Senate rejects Patriot Act

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Clearly, the McCain-Feingold Act abridges "freedom of speech, or of the press."

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Clearly anti-fraud laws and defemation claims abridge freedom of speech, or of the press.". They must be unconstitutional, too, right? Oh, wait, they're not.

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Defamation claims are not LAWS, but SUITS seeking compensation for unjust damages.

It isn't against the law to libel or slander; but you can be sued for damages if you do.

Anti-fraud laws have nothing to do with freedom of speech. If you commit fraud you may be sued for damages and/or prosecuted for a criminal act.
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Old 12-16-2005, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: Senate rejects Patriot Act

The only way to prevent terrorist attacks is to put an internment camp/deportation (like the Japanese in WWII).

We aren't going to do that because it's insane, so why do we bother with this worthless bullcrap that doesn't work.
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Old 12-17-2005, 04:42 AM
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Default Re: Senate rejects Patriot Act

This piece of news, along with the word that GWB personally authorized what could be illegal survellience of Americans, should put the nails in the Patriot Act for a few years.

Actually starting to feel maybe the American People are starting to wise up - Either that or the petition I signed did wonders - LOL

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