88 hand against preflop capper

milesdyson · #1 04-15-2005, 08:02 PM

First orbit at this table, and villain is just posting a blind in the cutoff so it is his first hand as well. I'm putting a little into the thought that perhaps he's raising light after posting (although I probably shouldn't be doing this at all), hence my 3-bet preflop.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.75.
3 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO (poster) raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls, CO caps, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls.

So everyone and their mother calls my 3-bet, and CO caps - meh. Nice table, I suppose.

Flop: (20.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Nice flop, so I bet. I put CO on AK or AQ, or maybe a scared 99 or TT, but I have no idea how he plays, so he really could have anything. I didn't think of checking this flop through, whatsoever. BB may have folded incorrectly - my bet offered everyone over 20:1.

Turn: (12.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB folds, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Very nice turn, so I bet again and still get two calls.

River: (15.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero checks.

Very nice river, should I value bet? I didn't see CO calling, and I thought MP2 may have been check calling down a weak J.

Final Pot: 15.25 BB

deepsquat · #2 04-15-2005, 08:07 PM

I like every street, wish i had the balls to 3bet this pf. NH

SCfuji · #3 04-15-2005, 08:09 PM

well if the villains have some sort of pair and they called that turn they are certainly calling your river bet. if they missed it is possible you may get a loosey call from a hand like AK or even AQ. but with two villains it is hard to believe that you can get away with a river bet for value.

i give up and check behind as well.

shadow29 · #4 04-15-2005, 08:26 PM

Given your pf action, there's not much else you can do post-flop.

For some reason, I tend to give a poster's raise a bit more respect. Don't know why, could be wrong. I could probably find a fold pf. I'd have to think about it. I don't know about pf.

milesdyson · #5 04-15-2005, 08:37 PM

Yeah I think preflop may be the most interesting of all streets, as like you said, postflop pretty much played itself. TT would be a super easy 3-bet here, imo.

Shillx · #6 04-15-2005, 08:40 PM

I don't see how you can do it differently postflop. I would think about checking behind on the flop with aces* (but not in this case) but certainly not eights. So this is my line with any pocket pair that I choose to 3-bet preflop. Nice hand.

Brad

*Anyone who raises/caps and then checks the flop can't be trusted to bet the turn for me. With aces, I sometimes might try to give the 1st coldcaller 5:1 on the turn instead of giving the 1st flop caller 20:1. It is just a technique used to maximize the chance of winning the pot.

milesdyson · #7 04-15-2005, 09:12 PM

Yeah I was really surprised that CO capped preflop and checked the flop. This hand would be way different had he bet into me. If bet into, I would raise and call a 3-bet, folding the turn without spiking an 8. If not 3-bet I would bet the turn and fold to a check raise.