This felt wrong.

ArturiusX · #1 11-19-2005, 12:24 AM

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.70 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.70 BB

Villian is a 37/20, very tricky, very agro, hard to read.

Spicymoose · #2 11-19-2005, 12:29 AM

For you to take this line, you have to think that he will bet every street and have less than a ace at least 1/3 of the time. I don't think this is realistic, and I think you are probably behind to a better ace, or some pocker pair, or a ten. Fold the flop, and try again next time. Alternatively, you could try check raising the flop, and leading the turn, but I would like some good reads that villain is willing to give up easy, and would not try this too often.

ArturiusX · #3 11-19-2005, 12:31 AM

I probably would have folded the turn if it wasnt for the gutter.

Spicymoose · #4 11-19-2005, 12:35 AM

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I probably would have folded the turn if it wasnt for the gutter.

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I noticed that you had that, but you are only getting 5.5:1 on your call. If your plan from the turn is to call down to the river, you are paying 6.5:2, or about 3:1, which I don't think you are good nearly enough. If your plan is to call the turn, and only call a good river, you don't have the 7 outs that you need.

scotty34 · #5 11-19-2005, 12:38 AM

What is his approximate 3-betting range when you open from the CO? I suppose it makes a difference that he is very aggro, as with some of those types 89s etc. aren't out of the question. Against a standard opponent this is a pretty easy C/F on the flop for me.

ArturiusX · #6 11-19-2005, 12:41 AM

Your guess is as good as mine. Probably mid pockets, most aces, suited kings, stuff like JTs and Q9s.

The Truth · #7 11-19-2005, 10:41 AM

c/r this flop, maybe raise the turn. Probably just test him on the flop.

blake

Spicymoose · #8 11-19-2005, 11:17 AM

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c/r this flop, maybe raise the turn. Probably just test him on the flop.

blake

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A flop check raise might be ok, but since he 3-bet us preflop, I don't think a fold is all that bad. A turn check raise here is pretty bad IMO, as it is really expensive, we are behind to a good portion to his range, and if he 3-bets, we would be forced into calling with our slim odds. We would be getting 9.5:1, and since we would have 4 outs to the almost nuts (unless he has the rare TT), plus the occasional times hitting our ace wins us the pot, we are forced into calling. This is bad, as often when we hit our ace we will be paying off a better hand anyway.

aba20 · #9 11-19-2005, 03:27 PM

A very similar thread by obsidion (?sp?) half a week ago. The consensus was that the check call line was the best against an agro opponent.