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[Steve Giufre]

There have been a few hands you have posted that I havent been a big fan of, but thats pretty nasty. Nice hand.

[Shandrax]

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READS: 1)Villain chases way too much, 2)villain never bluffraises river (most opponents never do anyway) 3) due to some fancy play, vilain thinks I am very random.

By the way, my preflop play varies a lot depending on who I play. Against this opponent I would reraise AQ about 60% of the time out of position and call the rest with the intention of checkraising most (like over 90%) flops. If I checkraised the flop here btw, my opponent would have peeled with overcards if he had that type of hand.


suits played a factor in this hand.

Hand #8513879-271 at Livorno ($200/$400 Hold'em)
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Started at 22/Sep/05 06:23:21

eugeneel is at seat 0 with $34233.50.
Indian Head is at seat 1 with $3955.50.
The button is at seat 1.

Indian Head posts the small blind of $100.
eugeneel posts the big blind of $200.

eugeneel: As Qc
Indian Head: -- --

Pre-flop:

Indian Head raises to $400. eugeneel calls.

Flop (board: 7s 6s 8c):

eugeneel checks. Indian Head bets $200. eugeneel
calls.

Turn (board: 7s 6s 8c 8h):

eugeneel checks. Indian Head bets $400. eugeneel
calls.

River (board: 7s 6s 8c 8h Kh):

eugeneel bets $400. Indian Head calls.



Showdown:

eugeneel shows As Qc.
eugeneel has As Qc 8c 8h Kh: a pair of eights.
Indian Head mucks cards.
(Indian Head has 5d Ad.)


Hand #8513879-271 Summary:

$.50 is raked from a pot of $2800.
eugeneel wins $2799.50 with a pair of eights.

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Sorry, but I don't get it. This is limit heads-up play and you started with AQo. This is a huge favorite over a random hand and you went to the river with it. I mean cool, but what was the alternative?

Other than that, call-check-call-check-call-bet doesn't exactly look like a "very well played hand", because it hardly deviates from a complete "calling station". It looks more like a very self weighing approach to things.

The only interesting decision was the bet on the river. The question is what was the better play if you think you had the best hand. Let's look at the options:

bet -> wins/loses 400 if he calls
check-call -> wins/loses 400 if he bets
check-raise = much more volatility and you don't want that with just ace high on the river
check-fold -> board isn't scaring and you got the odds to call, so this is not an option

It all depends on if the other guy was more likely to bet than to call. Actually I would not expect him to call with nothing, on the other hand I would expect him to bluff with nothing in order to take the pot. For you in order to win the other guy must have nothing(!), so betting on your part was quite optimistic unless you knew that he knew that you knew this [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] If anything, then the hand could have even been misplayed.

P.S.: If we want to put the other guy on a hand, I'd say he had something like A9o, ace with a 9-J kicker for sure.

[Emperor]

Normally E would check call here because it makes him more money when the guy bluffs at the pot. but this guy is smarter than that and just checks behind a lot. This guy also figures that if E had a King that he would have bet the turn. He puts E on a stone cold bluff when E bets out.

What he doesn't realize is that E knows this already and has value bet his Ace high.

This 32nd level thinking is why E's play is brilliant.

Satire anyone?

[Nigel]

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P.S.: If we want to put the other guy on a hand, I'd say he had something like A9o, ace with a 9-J kicker for sure.

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What on earth do you deduce this from?

[PassiveCaller]

Two verys is definitely excessive. Yawn.

[MrTeddyKGB]

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one verys is definitely excessive. Yawn.

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