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Old 05-26-2005, 02:58 AM
RockPile RockPile is offline
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Default Re: My one interesting hand in a short 6.78 VPIP session (A8s SB)

Seeing as you bet out the flop and turn I think you should have bet the river and if he raised it back folded. he likely would just call anyways or even better - fold.. I think without betting the river you're not giving him that final chance to fold and it also exposes your hand, showing weakness, that gives him a chance to bet hoping to get you to fold to his bluff.
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Old 05-26-2005, 03:20 AM
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I think you should have bet the river and if he raised it back folded. he likely would just call anyways or even better - fold.. I think without betting the river you're not giving him that final chance to fold ...

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is he going to fold a pair heads up for one more bet on the river after calling all the way? I think he won't.

I can't really make sense of your notes, but it looks like he might be the loose/aggressive/likes to bluff type.
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Old 05-26-2005, 03:23 AM
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likes to bluff type.

This is the key part of the read. Explains why I like check/calling so much.

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Old 05-26-2005, 11:58 AM
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Seeing as you bet out the flop and turn I think you should have bet the river and if he raised it back folded. he likely would just call anyways or even better - fold..

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If he folds, I had him beat anyway. But there aren't many hands better than mine which will fold. So I don't see how much there is to gain by betting here.

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I think without betting the river you're not giving him that final chance to fold and it also exposes your hand, showing weakness, that gives him a chance to bet hoping to get you to fold to his bluff.

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Good. That was my plan. The river is a scare card, putting 4 to a straight on the board.
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Old 05-26-2005, 08:54 PM
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I think without betting the river you're not giving him that final chance to fold and it also exposes your hand, showing weakness, that gives him a chance to bet hoping to get you to fold to his bluff.

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Good. That was my plan. The river is a scare card, putting 4 to a straight on the board.

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If that was your plan to have him bluff at you then why did you just call and not raise? Makes no sense to me...
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Old 05-26-2005, 09:11 PM
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I think without betting the river you're not giving him that final chance to fold and it also exposes your hand, showing weakness, that gives him a chance to bet hoping to get you to fold to his bluff.

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Good. That was my plan. The river is a scare card, putting 4 to a straight on the board.

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If that was your plan to have him bluff at you then why did you just call and not raise? Makes no sense to me...

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Because our raise is only called by a hand that beats us.
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Old 05-26-2005, 09:31 PM
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I think without betting the river you're not giving him that final chance to fold and it also exposes your hand, showing weakness, that gives him a chance to bet hoping to get you to fold to his bluff.

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Good. That was my plan. The river is a scare card, putting 4 to a straight on the board.

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If that was your plan to have him bluff at you then why did you just call and not raise? Makes no sense to me...

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You're not considering the consequences of your actions.

What happens if he's bluffing and I check-raise him? Unless he's hyper-aggressive or just very very very curious, he's folding. What did that raise accomplish? I don't win any extra money out of it.

What happens if he's not bluffing and I check-raise him? He'll probably call. Since he's not bluffing, he probably has ace-high beat. Since he probably has ace-high beat, I'm probably losing two BB on the river instead of just one.

So I can only do worse by check-raising his bluff. Therefore, calling is better.
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