Can someone who is 30/20 post a starting hand chart?

[Drontier]

filtered 5-6 players I am 28.28/20.28. You really don't need a chart. As you become more familiar you will recognize the opponents you should be raising more hands against. Down to 4-6 I am 29.30/21.28.
2-6 I am...
BB 37.16/14.77
SB 39.98/21.59
Button 29.71/28.84
1 26.41/25.51
2 18.00/17.74
3 18.10/18.10

This is just this months stats, not over 20k hands at 10/20, but this is quite similar to my overall stats.

[IGMorton]

i run 26/19 using this

http://www.mrfixitonline.com/readPos...tingId=1701869

following the blind defense on that chart, i only play those "CA" hands vs. about half of my opponents. i run FBB 58-60% and FSB 81-83%.

again, i treat half my opponents as tight, and steal with those "RT" hands vs. them. i run ASB 36-38%

[Subfallen]

I'm playing 25/18 (filtered 5-handed) these days, and multi-tabling is much easier than when I ran at 30/20.

[oreogod]

Here is a pic of a chart I have worked on on and off. Tell me what u think, ppls. Some of it is based off the Mbenhoe starting chart, but its been re-worked to my liking.

I can also host the excel file if anyone is intrested.

Grey=Fold.
RL=raise first in or 1 limper, call or chk otherwise
RT=raise tight players first in, fold otherwise
LR=limp vs loose opponents, raise tight players.

[oreogod]

I also havent really included a good 3bet range. Trying to find a way to keep it simple. Like say CO openraises and u have A8s...Id usually 3bet that. I could say "R-CO"

EDITED MY CHART PIC. The chart is by no means finished. Almost there but there are some inconsitentcies and problems with it. Like the CC w/ AJs part.

I would love it if you could host the excel file! What about your limping in early position btw. Seems awfully easy to play against you should you choose to limp. I think you need some more limping hands like A10,KJ or just to drop it.

[Victor]

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I would love it if you could host the excel file! What about your limping in early position btw. Seems awfully easy to play against you should you choose to limp. I think you need some more limping hands like A10,KJ or just to drop it.

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limping is for suckers. so are charts.

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I would love it if you could host the excel file! What about your limping in early position btw. Seems awfully easy to play against you should you choose to limp. I think you need some more limping hands like A10,KJ or just to drop it.

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limping is for suckers. so are charts.

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if you look through this thread you will see that I have never used one. But I figured it would be fun to put my ideas into print..

[oreogod]

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I would love it if you could host the excel file! What about your limping in early position btw. Seems awfully easy to play against you should you choose to limp. I think you need some more limping hands like A10,KJ or just to drop it.

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limping is for suckers. so are charts.

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The same could be said for blanket statments like yours. I imagine it was said in jest, so whatever...Im not making the chart for me, just to see if I could do it to help some ppl. The image posted above was just an early draft. I have since worked on it more and its coming along much better...anyway the excel file also has a decent BB defense mapped out for general situations.

But ppl just starting out in 6max will benefit imo. Plus its been intresting to force yourself to map out a preflop game for general situations. (basically I started w/ MBenhoes chart, compared it to two others and King Yaos shorthanded opening standards (from an old 2+2 post of his)...then mixed with my ideas to create what I think is a superior starting hand chart)

Anyway I will start a new thread soon as soon as I get it into presentable form so it can be critiqued.

[TheMetetron]

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I would love it if you could host the excel file! What about your limping in early position btw. Seems awfully easy to play against you should you choose to limp. I think you need some more limping hands like A10,KJ or just to drop it.

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limping is for suckers. so are charts.

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And that chart sucks IMO.

Raising 55 UTG? Are you kidding...

(And I have a PFR of 22)


Edit: I don't mean this as a pesonal attack, I just think charts in general are BS. No successful player I know uses a chart. It's really good for people to not even use them when starting out because you learn SO much faster by just thinking things through yourself.