54s on the button - how's my line?

[LuvDemNutz]

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

CO ($60.3)
Hero ($400)
SB ($131.4)
BB ($556.9)
UTG ($661.35)
UTG+1 ($408.5)
UTG+2 ($329.9)
MP1 ($111.2)
MP2 ($249.2)
MP3 ($503.8)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls $4, MP1 calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $4, Hero calls $4, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($24) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets $8</font>, MP1 folds, CO folds, Hero calls $8, SB folds, BB calls $8.

Turn: ($48) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $30</font>, UTG+2 calls $30, Hero calls $30.

River: ($138) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $35</font>, UTG+2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $125</font>

[MindGamez]

I dont think anything but a high flush can call you, and it seems like he doesn't have it. He could have a lot of hands... if you beat him here, he'll fold to a raise and if you dont beat him i think he'll fold a strait or higher 2 pair so reraise on the river is the best line

[JimmyJazz1]

Why no raise on the flop? You want to make people with a high spade pay to see a turn. I think a raise of say $30 would make sesne.
Thoughts?

[MindGamez]

yea, good point, i forgot to say that...

someone with a high spade, mostly the ace, will put a decent amout of money in the pot at 2/4 so why not get more money in with apparently the best hand

[ImJWish]

I think he played that well until the river. His raise like the first posted said could only be called by a high flush there and if your oppenant is someone who would fold an overpair, I dont think this was a good raise on the river.

I also feel like raising the flop would be a bad play because say you get reraised after raising the flop by a flush, you could have drawn cheaply at a boat by calling instead. Depending on his actions on the turn and the turn card, you would know whether to push then or fold the hand.

[thatpfunk]

I don't like any of the streets.

[KaneKungFu123]

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Why no raise on the flop? You want to make people with a high spade pay to see a turn. I think a raise of say $30 would make sesne.
Thoughts?

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raising the flop is trouble. i like a turn raise better.

[LuvDemNutz]

Here were my thoughts on the hand -

I have no read on UTG+2 but BB was an uber-rock.

When UTG+2 bet I put him on top pair - I figured I'd call and push him off his hand on the turn.

When BB called I wasn't sure what to think. When BB then led on a non-spade turn I immediately put him on a baby flush. Many rocks will take this line with a baby flush - not wanting to invest a lot of money OOP on a hand where you're not going to win a lot but could lose a lot.

I only called the turn because I figured I was probably behind and didn't think a raise would fold a better hand.

When the river spade hit, the rock's weak bet told me he didn't like it. Seeing as how I put him on a low flopped flush the only way I take it down is to raise. Also, from his perspective I could very easily have been drawing to that fourth spade with the naked As.

So basically my raise was meant to represent a high spade and was meant to get him to fold - which he did.

[Spladle Master]

I love your line, I love the way you thought about it, I love the result.

Nice hand.

[steaknshake925]

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raising the flop is trouble. i like a turn raise better.

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is this because if you raise the flop you might get moved in on by a big spade?