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Re: $55\'s... I don\'t see any good coming from this
Trust me, a guy calling a raise is much scarier to the raiser (excluding AA) than you give him credit for. He has no idea what you have either, and will probably be thinking the same as you (assuming he's not a donk).
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Re: $55\'s... I don\'t see any good coming from this
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He has no idea what you have either, and will probably be thinking the same as you (assuming he's not a donk). [/ QUOTE ] This is something a lot of people fail to realize. We are just as capable out outplaying our opponents as they are of outplaying us, and in this case we have a good (but not great) hand and position. |
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Re: $55\'s... I don\'t see any good coming from this
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This is something a lot of people fail to realize. We are just as capable out outplaying our opponents as they are of outplaying us, and in this case we have a good (but not great) hand and position. [/ QUOTE ] Wow. I only came back into this thread to see why it wasn't dead yet and I see respected posters defending the call. The typical situation is flop xxx and a 2/3 to full pot bet by villain. How do you plan to "outplay" him now? Call again? I call raises with AQ on early levels sometimes, but only when I'm pretty sure they don't represent a good hand (e.g. minraises), or if the raiser is in late position, or with a big positional advantage. This kind of large size raise in early position is right out, especially with a bunch of guys still to act behind me. |
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Re: $55\'s... I don\'t see any good coming from this
Like ChrisV, I fold. Maybe I might, just might, call it on the button or in the CO, but even that's damn rare.
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Re: $55\'s... I don\'t see any good coming from this
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[ QUOTE ] This is something a lot of people fail to realize. We are just as capable out outplaying our opponents as they are of outplaying us, and in this case we have a good (but not great) hand and position. [/ QUOTE ] Wow. I only came back into this thread to see why it wasn't dead yet and I see respected posters defending the call. The typical situation is flop xxx and a 2/3 to full pot bet by villain. How do you plan to "outplay" him now? Call again? I call raises with AQ on early levels sometimes, but only when I'm pretty sure they don't represent a good hand (e.g. minraises), or if the raiser is in late position, or with a big positional advantage. This kind of large size raise in early position is right out, especially with a bunch of guys still to act behind me. [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. Rags fall, you're behind to nearly everything. A Queen falls, you're behind to AA-QQ. An A falls, you're behind to AK. You really need AQ specifically on the flop to feel confident about playing this hand. Although I guess you could "outplay" your opponent. Some dude made exactly this call against me last night -- my AK EP, his AQ MP. With AJT on the board, he pushes. I let it go and he proudly shows me his AQ. Don't know if he was a donk or an expert. |
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Re: $55\'s... I don\'t see any good coming from this
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Trust me, a guy calling a raise is much scarier to the raiser (excluding AA) than you give him credit for. He has no idea what you have either, and will probably be thinking the same as you (assuming he's not a donk). [/ QUOTE ] This is a very good point. |
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Re: $55\'s... I don\'t see any good coming from this
I don't like the raise to 75
I might fold. |
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Re: $55\'s... I don\'t see any good coming from this
If you assume raiser isn't a donk then shouldn't you also assume that he has KK+ or AK as you earlier said he "should" have to raise 75 in that spot?
You can't have it both ways - that is to say you can't say hey it's a 55 so the raiser could have any kind of donkish hand and then from the other side of your mouth say that he will "probably be thinking the same as you". Would be nice though if your could have your cake and eat it too. |
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