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10-10-2005, 06:35 PM
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Another Ahead of the Curve: HUD
I feel fairly certain that Party will ban HUDs (probably not PokerTracker though) such as PAHud and PV once they resolidify their player base. These stat-tracking programs just serve to break the fish faster and it means that money passes fewer times over the rake. I don't think that the high-volume, suboptimal customers will leave en masse over this issue either. As we have so often heard over the past two days, the TAGs go where the fish are.
Party is extremely market-savvy and this move was made this weekend because it is the best long-term proposition for Party. Party's market-savvy killed Paradise at the onset of the poker boom and Party will continue to thrive with or without us. Yes, we contribute massive amounts of rake. That money that we pay in rake, however, came from the accounts of other players. What is most important to a site like Party is the amount of new money that a player brings in to support the site's ecosystem. 
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#2
10-10-2005, 06:37 PM
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Re: Another Ahead of the Curve: HUD
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I feel fairly certain that Party will ban HUDs [/ QUOTE ] I'm not as certain of this as you are but I would not be surprised.
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#3
10-11-2005, 08:17 AM
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Re: Another Ahead of the Curve: HUD
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[ QUOTE ] I feel fairly certain that Party will ban HUDs [/ QUOTE ] I'm not as certain of this as you are but I would not be surprised. [/ QUOTE ] Party could go a long way toward reducing the benefit of HUDs by preventing the logging of "observed" hands. Currently, a player can open the maximum number of tables, fire up PT, and go to sleep. The hands get logged, the player gets information, and Party gets nothing. -EV for them. When a player actually has to play 10K hands to acquire 10K hands worth of data, Party has earned 10K hands of rake. +EV for them. It's not the HUD that's the problem.
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#4
10-11-2005, 09:06 AM
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Re: Another Ahead of the Curve: HUD
I never understood why they send observed HH to your HD. I am too complacent to do datamining but a HUD helps even me with my laughable 4 tables. Or, at least I think it helps me, it may only be a psychological crutch...
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10-11-2005, 09:25 AM
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Re: Another Ahead of the Curve: HUD
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I never understood why they send observed HH to your HD. I am too complacent to do datamining but a HUD helps even me with my laughable 4 tables. Or, at least I think it helps me, it may only be a psychological crutch... [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, why do they send observed HH and not allow observed chat? (not that they are related at all). I'm gonna go ahead and keep datamining, and I disagree with a lot of the posters who say it doesn't help that much. It helps a lot. Every hand posted in SS has stats of the player so people can get a reasonable read before replying to how the hand should have been played.
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#7
10-10-2005, 06:49 PM
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Re: Another Ahead of the Curve: HUD
If they banned the huds, I would immediately move to another online poker room. One of the main reasons I play at party and skins is to be able to use pokertracker and a HUD to easily identify the traits of my opponents.
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#8
10-10-2005, 07:00 PM
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Re: Another Ahead of the Curve: HUD
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If they banned the huds, I would immediately move to another online poker room. One of the main reasons I play at party and skins is to be able to use pokertracker and a HUD to easily identify the traits of my opponents. [/ QUOTE ] They could use your argument for not allowing it. craig
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#9
10-10-2005, 07:16 PM
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Re: Another Ahead of the Curve: HUD
I'm not an expert on how HUD works, but doesn't it take data off of the hand history data written to PT from your hard drive? Unless they remove the hand history option, aren't HUD and PT safe?
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