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Old 12-19-2005, 04:58 PM
slavic slavic is offline
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Going low tech for a moment- there will be nothing to stop groups of players from creating large shared databases from their own hand history files. Hopefully Party recognizes this and just continues to allow .hhf...

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Um yes there is, giving someone full access to your play is just plain dumb.
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:23 PM
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Default Re: Partymine going to be obsolete?

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Going low tech for a moment- there will be nothing to stop groups of players from creating large shared databases from their own hand history files. Hopefully Party recognizes this and just continues to allow .hhf...

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Um yes there is, giving someone full access to your play is just plain dumb.

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Why? No one is going to want to sit at my table, regardless of whether they have 1,000 hands of my play or not.
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Old 12-19-2005, 05:42 PM
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I hope somebody starts a hh exchange site or board if party stops the hh. Something where its a 2 way street, you give, you get.

I'll be joining and sharing my data.
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Old 12-19-2005, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: Partymine going to be obsolete?

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giving someone full access to your play is just plain dumb.

[/ QUOTE ]Why? No one is going to want to sit at my table, regardless of whether they have 1,000 hands of my play or not.

[/ QUOTE ]I completely agree. This was one of the issues with PlayerView. If you have 1k hands on me, you'll see that I'm (get this) tight and aggressive. If you have 30k hands, you'll see just about the same.

I'm not saying the information's worthless, but I'd much rather give you 30k hands of mine if you'll give me 10^7 hands in exchange.
-Sam
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Old 12-20-2005, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: Partymine going to be obsolete?

When you give a player more than statistics, ie your exact play they have what is closer to perfect information on you. It opens you up, believe it or not there are playing styles that specifically look for tag players to play against.
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Old 12-20-2005, 05:04 PM
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then you will be breaking TOS and if they forfeit your account you presumably will have no complaints?
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Old 12-20-2005, 11:12 PM
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then you will be breaking TOS and if they forfeit your account you presumably will have no complaints?

[/ QUOTE ]Above, I talked about a machine that never logs in and only mines. I felt pretty confident saying above that they couldn't catch me. However, if I only email hand histories to friends, I double-dog dare them to try to catch me. Wanna explain how they'd manage that one?
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:00 AM
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Sam, if your mining machine and your poker machine are on the same network, they share the same external IP address. Party will see this and can do what they wish with the info.
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Old 12-21-2005, 02:01 AM
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This thread is gettin serious now. A double dog dare has been issued!!! Any takers?
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Old 12-21-2005, 08:27 AM
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OK in order to use the information in real time when you play you will presumably have a HUD up (probably PAHUD if you have any sense). So they just take a screen shot - see that the stats you have up for a player don't reconcile with your personal play history with them and you are caught..

Of course they would have to be pretty seriously into investigating you to bother to do this, but you did double dare them!
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