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Old 12-02-2005, 03:29 PM
scdavis0 scdavis0 is offline
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Default QQ overpair hand - $200 NL

My read on villain is he is just kinda goofy. Plays reasonable but gets tilty at time and does some weird stuff.


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Button ($282.70)
SB ($55)
BB ($101.55)
UTG ($112.80)
Hero ($393.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, Button calls $7, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($22) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $20</font>, Button calls $20, BB folds.

Turn: ($62) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30.

River: ($122) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $65</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $130</font>, Hero calls $65.

Final Pot: $382
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Old 12-02-2005, 03:40 PM
beavens beavens is offline
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Default Re: QQ overpair hand - $200 NL

any reason for not betting the turn?
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Old 12-02-2005, 03:43 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Re: QQ overpair hand - $200 NL

I'd rather lead turn and c/c that river.
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Old 12-02-2005, 03:46 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: QQ overpair hand - $200 NL

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I'd rather lead turn and c/c that river.

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agreed. what hands are paying off the river? maybe 88-TT?
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Old 12-02-2005, 04:29 PM
rachelwxm rachelwxm is offline
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Default Re: QQ overpair hand - $200 NL

I cannot put him a hand by river that min raise you and you beat.
A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?
c/c river
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Old 12-02-2005, 04:45 PM
-Skeme- -Skeme- is offline
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Default Re: QQ overpair hand - $200 NL

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I'd rather lead turn and c/c that river.

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Old 12-02-2005, 06:31 PM
JMP300z JMP300z is offline
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Default Re: QQ overpair hand - $200 NL

sean boy,

I understand why you cc the turn b/c you may have outs and dont want to get raised but id Check and reevalute on river when taking this line. That minraise reeks of a poor player w/ a flush. If he had 88-TT hed just call, JJ is beating you. Thatd be one hell of a sophisticated bluff. I understand that you bet b/c you cant expect 7x or 88-TT to bet for you but you can expect missed draws to bluff. Just some thoughts. I cant imagine you being good very often on the end.

-JP
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:25 PM
FreakDaddy FreakDaddy is offline
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Default Re: QQ overpair hand - $200 NL

I over bet the flop on draw heavy flops like this. Turn is fine, but I check/call the river when the board pairs. I think this is a win the most when ahead/least when behind play here.
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:33 PM
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I'd rather lead turn and c/c that river.

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I agree, could someone explain the benefit of check calling the turn and leading the river?

IMHO, the way the hand was played I think you were getting raised on the turn if you led out anyway.
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:36 PM
ahnuld ahnuld is offline
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Default Re: I don\'t get the line

Just cc river. Let him bluff off chips with A or k clubs or make a dumb value bet with AJ.
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