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Old 09-29-2005, 12:47 PM
TheNoodleMan TheNoodleMan is offline
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Default Fold QQ to a raise, a re-raise and a push?

NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Thursday, September 29, 12:41:29 EDT 2005

Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: SilencerTwo ( $1070 )
Seat 2: brighteyesMD ( $530 )
Seat 3: TXBIGDAD ( $860 )
Seat 4: Blith ( $700 )
Seat 5: ResJudicataT ( $1582 )
Seat 6: bijoux111 ( $530 )
Seat 7: Wickerbicker ( $600 )
Seat 8: des6167 ( $785 )
Seat 9: JackSparro ( $743 )
Seat 10: <font color="red"> HERO </font> ( $600 )
Trny:16173352 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to <font color="red"> HERO </font> [ Qs Qc ]
&gt;You have options at Table 11563 Table!.
brighteyesMD raises [100].
TXBIGDAD folds.
Blith folds.
ResJudicataT folds.
bijoux111 raises [250].
Wickerbicker folds.
des6167 folds.
JackSparro is all-In [743]
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.

<font color="red"> HERO ...?</font>
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Old 09-29-2005, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: Fold QQ to a raise, a re-raise and a push?

I'd call. If this was a 50+5, I'd prob fold, but there are plenty of donks in 30+3. How it got to Level 3 with still 10 players is beyond me. Were you playing at 9 AM or something?
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: Fold QQ to a raise, a re-raise and a push?

You can be patient and fold here if you dont want to get involved in the pot. You are next on the button, but depending on when the blinds jump, you are going to have to make a move pretty soon. And with blinds 50/100 and a 600 stack, your move will have to be strong. So, you might just want to push here and assume you won’t have a better opportunity within the next 7 or 8 hands. Looks like someone is going to get busted on this hand, that just gives you one less hand to catch before you hit the blinds again...so I would call this.

I would assume that bijoux is going to call the push, never know if bright eyes will just let this hand go. I have a feeling you are looking at being up against a pair and a strong ace. Just hope your pair is the best and it holds up.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: Fold QQ to a raise, a re-raise and a push?

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How it got to Level 3 with still 10 players is beyond me.

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This is not unusual in the 33s, even at peak times.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Fold QQ to a raise, a re-raise and a push?

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How it got to Level 3 with still 10 players is beyond me.

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This is not unusual in the 33s, even at peak times.

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at peak times, there are more than enough donkeys that at least one person gets busted in levels 1 and 2. i'm not saying its completely rare, but rather unlikely.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: Fold QQ to a raise, a re-raise and a push?

Any reads? with ten players left at level three makes me assume the table is very tight - in which case the raise/re-raise/push is dangerous.

You've got two players who have openly indicated strength by open raising and re-raising behind you, and bijoux is pretty much committed. I'd probably let this go, you've got plenty of chips and if the table is overly tight you shouldn't have any trouble bullying them as the blinds escalate.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: Fold QQ to a raise, a re-raise and a push?

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I'd call. If this was a 50+5, I'd prob fold, but there are plenty of donks in 30+3. How it got to Level 3 with still 10 players is beyond me. Were you playing at 9 AM or something?

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Note that the very fact that everyone is still here indicates that this is probably an unusually tough table.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: Fold QQ to a raise, a re-raise and a push?

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NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Thursday, September 29, 12:41:29 EDT 2005

Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: SilencerTwo ( $1070 )
Seat 2: brighteyesMD ( $530 )
Seat 3: TXBIGDAD ( $860 )
Seat 4: Blith ( $700 )
Seat 5: ResJudicataT ( $1582 )
Seat 6: bijoux111 ( $530 )
Seat 7: Wickerbicker ( $600 )
Seat 8: des6167 ( $785 )
Seat 9: JackSparro ( $743 )
Seat 10: <font color="red"> HERO </font> ( $600 )
Trny:16173352 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to <font color="red"> HERO </font> [ Qs Qc ]
&gt;You have options at Table 11563 Table!.
brighteyesMD raises [100].
TXBIGDAD folds.
Blith folds.
ResJudicataT folds.
bijoux111 raises [250].
Wickerbicker folds.
des6167 folds.
JackSparro is all-In [743]
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.

<font color="red"> HERO ...?</font>

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I'd fold, I think you'll find AA or KK out there more than half the time. It's close though, a call isn't terrible, especially considering your stack size and the overlay if one of the initial raisers folds, but I would still fold.
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: Fold QQ to a raise, a re-raise and a push?

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How it got to Level 3 with still 10 players is beyond me.

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This is not unusual in the 33s, even at peak times.

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at peak times, there are more than enough donkeys that at least one person gets busted in levels 1 and 2. i'm not saying its completely rare, but rather unlikely.

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I'd tend to agree. I guess by not unusual, I meant that in a set of 8 I would not be shocked if it happened on 1-2 of my tables.
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Old 09-29-2005, 06:06 PM
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Fold in a heartbeat. It'd be extremely hard for you to be winning right now. Even if you do have the best hand, chances are you're only 7-3 to A-x. The combination of being pretty unlikely to be the best hand and not being that big of a favorite even if you are is jus bleh.
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