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2-bet turn raiser on 1-card river straight?
No specific reads... I remember the table as being loose and somewhat aggressive.
What factors do you think should go into deciding whether or not to raise the river? PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (6 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>. Flop: (5 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls. Turn: (3.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls. River: (7.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>... |
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Re: 2-bet turn raiser on 1-card river straight?
Factors going into decision...
I have the high end of a straight on a non-paired, non-flush board. Let me think... Easy raise. Calling here would be ridiculously weak. Only 78 has you beat. |
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Re: 2-bet turn raiser on 1-card river straight?
i don't get why you bet the turn.
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Re: 2-bet turn raiser on 1-card river straight?
With no reads I would be hard pressed to bet the turn with a board like that after he called the flop.
On the river I'd raise and call a 3-bet and think about capping since only 1 hand can beat you. No reads I might just call the 3-bet, if he's displayed any signs of suckage I would probably cap to a 3-bet. |
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Re: 2-bet turn raiser on 1-card river straight?
Let's say we've concluded that the 6 made villain's hand. (Not an inevitable conclusion, but just for argument's sake...) Are we ahead 67% of the time?
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Re: 2-bet turn raiser on 1-card river straight?
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i don't get why you bet the turn. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not so against the turn bet. We now have 11 outs, its heads up, I think its an ok semi bluff. I would only do it heads up, but I think its ok here. Would you check/call, check /fold? just curious |
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Re: 2-bet turn raiser on 1-card river straight?
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Let's say we've concluded that the 6 made villain's hand. (Not an inevitable conclusion, but just for argument's sake...) Are we ahead 67% of the time? [/ QUOTE ] Why do you think it was the turn that "made villians hand". How do you know he doesn't have a Q, a PP, a slowplayed set or two pair, or c/r'ing pure air as a defense because he thinks your on a steal? Your ahead much more than 67% of the time. |
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Re: 2-bet turn raiser on 1-card river straight?
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Why do you think it was the turn that "made villians hand". [/ QUOTE ] I was just putting it out there as a hypothetical. Thanks, those of you who made me think about the turn. I always just auto-semi-bluff when I hit a strong draw like that and I have the initiative. I don't often stop to consider what he could be calling the flop with, getting 6-1, and how the turn card impacts that. The 6 is not an overcard to any pocket pair, for instance. I have to work on that some more. In this case, one can make an educated guess that he could have called a 5-outer on the flop needing ~ 8-1 effective odds, and that a bet had a good chance of taking the pot immediately. In real time, I was just auto-betting. FWIW, here's how it turned out, demonstrating that pot odds are sometimes (often?) irrelevant for hand-reading at 1/2. <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls. Final Pot: 13.50 BB Results : SB has 7s 8c (straight, eight high). Hero has Ah 7h (straight, seven high). Outcome: SB wins 13.50 BB. |
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Re: 2-bet turn raiser on 1-card river straight?
I'm not even thinking of not raising this river here. if he 3bets then we can think about calling.
factors to consider: whether he'll call with a worse hand (likely unless his turn c/r was a total bluff or he's got a good read on you) how often we're ahead here (very) how often we're ahead if 3bet (possibly less than 50%, so I might refrain from capping) |
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