The Bizarre Tiny Bet Thread

microbet · #1 09-14-2005, 09:50 PM

Before the current Irie post I have oft wondered what the heck people have when they make a crazy small bet into a big pot. How about posting it in this thread if you see hand like this that goes to showdown?

Maulik · #2 09-14-2005, 09:59 PM

i am willing to oblige.

Sykes · #3 09-14-2005, 10:45 PM

I use it for stoppage. Here's a horribly misplayed hand by me:

Hand #8382371-22 at Wed1020pmA-015 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
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Started at 14/Sep/05 22:41:22

gtgambler is at seat 0 with 4580.
Tonz of Fun is at seat 1 with 1060.
Glory Seeker is at seat 2 with 2800.
aaak27 is at seat 3 with 1320.
Striker81 is at seat 5 with 1420.
paul love is at seat 6 with 1300.
ArnoldZiffel is at seat 7 with 4130.
justing80 is at seat 8 with 1380.
chevywyld is at seat 9 with 1040.
The button is at seat 9.

gtgambler posts the small blind of 20.
Tonz of Fun posts the big blind of 40.

gtgambler: -- --
Tonz of Fun: -- --
Glory Seeker: Ac 9c
aaak27: -- --
Striker81: -- --
paul love: -- --
ArnoldZiffel: -- --
justing80: -- --
chevywyld: -- --

Pre-flop:

Glory Seeker calls. aaak27 calls. Striker81 calls.
paul love folds. ArnoldZiffel folds. justing80
folds. chevywyld calls. gtgambler folds. Tonz of
Fun checks.

Flop (board: Ah Ks Kd):

Tonz of Fun checks. Glory Seeker checks. aaak27 checks. Striker81 checks. chevywyld checks.

Turn (board: Ah Ks Kd Qd):

Tonz of Fun checks. Glory Seeker bets 150. aaak27 folds. Striker81 calls. chevywyld folds. Tonz of Fun folds.

River (board: Ah Ks Kd Qd Qc):

Glory Seeker bets 40. Striker81 calls.

#4 09-15-2005, 12:08 AM

5.5 hand
Blinds 10/20
I have ~500
Villain has about 900

I raise to 50 from EP with TT.
Villain calls on BB.

Flop comes A-high rainbow
Villain bets 20
I call

Turn is a rag that brings a flush draw
Villain bets 20
I call

River is K on suit
Villain bets 100
I fold.

Be nice to see it. I considered minraising turn.

Sykes · #5 09-15-2005, 12:39 AM

[ QUOTE ]
5.5 hand
Blinds 10/20
I have ~500
Villain has about 900

I raise to 50 from EP with TT.
Villain calls on BB.

Flop comes A-high rainbow
Villain bets 20
I call

Turn is a rag that brings a flush draw
Villain bets 20
I call

River is K on suit
Villain bets 100
I fold.

Be nice to see it. I considered minraising turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hero should limp in pf.

#6 09-15-2005, 12:43 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
5.5 hand
Blinds 10/20
I have ~500
Villain has about 900

I raise to 50 from EP with TT.
Villain calls on BB.

Flop comes A-high rainbow
Villain bets 20
I call

Turn is a rag that brings a flush draw
Villain bets 20
I call

River is K on suit
Villain bets 100
I fold.

Be nice to see it. I considered minraising turn.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hero should limp in pf.

[/ QUOTE ]

Probably. Incidentally, I raised to 70. But the min bet's what this is about anyway. I assume he had a small set or an A. Possibly KK. 5.50 players are weird.

Xhad · #7 09-15-2005, 02:28 AM

Both same SNG, both same donk.

[ QUOTE ]
Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)
Hero (t800)
Button (t800)
SB (t800)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, UTG+1 calls t15, UTG+2 calls t15, 2 folds, MP3 calls t15, Hero calls t15, Button calls t15, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t120) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8 players)
SB bets t15, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls t15, Button calls t15.

Turn: (t165) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets t15, Hero raises to t100, Button folds, SB calls t85.

River: (t365) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t15, Hero calls t15.

Final Pot: t395

Results in white below: 
SB has 3h 9d (two pair, queens and threes).
Hero has 7d 7h (two pair, queens and sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins t395. 

[/ QUOTE ]

[ QUOTE ]
Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter

SB (t700)
BB (t770)
UTG (t1070)
UTG+1 (t785)
Hero (t1050)
MP2 (t685)
MP3 (t1405)
CO (t775)
Button (t760)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero calls t15, 1 fold, MP3 calls t15, 1 fold, Button calls t15, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets t15, Button folds, SB calls t15, BB calls t15, Hero calls t15.

Turn: (t135) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets t15, SB folds, BB calls t15, Hero calls t15.

River: (t180) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets t15, BB folds, Hero calls t15.

Final Pot: t210

Results in white below: 
Hero has As Ts (high card, ace).
MP3 has 8s 9h (high card, king).
Outcome: Hero wins t210. 

[/ QUOTE ]

microbet · #8 09-15-2005, 02:59 AM

Cool.

He pretty clearly seems to think of it as a blocking bet.

He did manage to see a cheap showdown with pretty close to the nut worst hand on the second hand. He didn't want you to bluff him out with a 48.

Scuba Chuck · #9 09-15-2005, 03:07 AM

micro, I think that on the lower levels, the mini-flop bet generally means one of 4 things.

1) A bet to take it down, as for some reason they've figured out that the multi-tablers can fold to even this sized bet. I see this often out of the SB. If you raise this guys bet, you almost always take it down.

2) A bet representing any paired card on the board.

3) A bet to scare off hands when the board comes QQ8 (or the like). I'd say 90% of the time, this hand is very weak.

4) A bet to build the pot when it's multi-handed and someone thinks their hand is the nuts, which it could be.

45suited · #10 09-15-2005, 09:56 AM

I think that ScubaChuck is right on with his 4 reasons why guys mini-bet. If I see a guy do it more than once or twice, I've started doing something like this (PP 22, blinds 25-50)

UTG ( $1950 )
UTG+1( $1120 )
CO ( $390 )
Button ( $1280 )
SB (HERO) ( $1590 ) dealt 8sJs
BB ( $1670 )

UTG, CO, Button, HERO all call. BB checks.

** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, 6c, 9d ] (Pot t250)

HERO checks.
BB checks.
UTG bets [50].
CO folds.
Button folds.
HERO calls [50].
BB folds.

** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ] (Pot 350)
HERO bets [250].
UTG folds.

I don't do this often, but in this case, I had the benefit of knowing that there was a good chance that I could get the pot heads up. It was also a benefit that I was OOP. Plus, villain had mini-bet twice before.