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Old 09-05-2005, 12:21 PM
rybones rybones is offline
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Default every option seems bad here

what would you do? This is a 33. I only have 13 bb, I am in ep, I am not a short stack, it is still 8 handed. A Call is begging for a push that I cannot call (or can I ... I know depends on the stack). I can't raise without pushing and this hand and position seem too weak for that, and folding a pair seems weak?

Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: tpc23 (1520)
Seat 2: hero (1385)
Seat 3: montybear (595)
Seat 4: MARKGM (295)
Seat 5: BIRDDOG279 (655)
Seat 6: neilwashere (930)
Seat 9: ohyouknow12 (595)
Seat 10: timetogonow (2025)
timetogonow posts small blind (50)
tpc23 posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 7s, 7d ]
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:25 PM
brimstone1 brimstone1 is offline
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Default Re: every option seems bad here

fold.
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: every option seems bad here

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what would you do? This is a 33. I only have 13 bb, I am in ep, I am not a short stack, it is still 8 handed. A Call is begging for a push that I cannot call (or can I ... I know depends on the stack). I can't raise without pushing and this hand and position seem too weak for that, and folding a pair seems weak?

Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 1: tpc23 (1520)
Seat 2: hero (1385)
Seat 3: montybear (595)
Seat 4: MARKGM (295)
Seat 5: BIRDDOG279 (655)
Seat 6: neilwashere (930)
Seat 9: ohyouknow12 (595)
Seat 10: timetogonow (2025)
timetogonow posts small blind (50)
tpc23 posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to hero [ 7s, 7d ]

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limp and try to see a flop for set value. you have plenty of chips to dump this if raised more than a min-raise. call a min-raise for set value as well.

definitely NOT a push (for 150 chips) and there is no sense in raising it yourself since youre not value betting it, your trying to flop a set.

limp. call min-raise if you need to and fold to any raise more than a min-raise.
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:28 PM
KingMedicine KingMedicine is offline
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fold.

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i think this is horrible.
he has plenty of chips to try to see a flop for 100 or 200.
the most he is gonna lose without seeing a flop is 100 if he limps, which he can certainly afford to do.
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:29 PM
Jackarama_ Jackarama_ is offline
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Default Re: every option seems bad here

bin em , esp if your not willing to call a re raise or commit all your stack, i know i wouldnt do it with 77 from that position.
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:35 PM
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Easy fold for me. To those recommending playing this for set value I say UTG is not the place to be doing this especially with the blinds so high.
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:38 PM
rybones rybones is offline
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Default Re: every option seems bad here

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limp and try to see a flop for set value. you have plenty of chips to dump this if raised more than a min-raise. call a min-raise for set value as well.

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let me get this straight, I should be willing to risk 1/6 (approx) of my stack on set value? However, I shouldn't call more than a min raise?

I gotta tell ya this sounds like a bad plan to me. I need more proof. Right now I am in good chip position. Blinds are going to really put presure on those with t600 or less to move soon. If I fold to someone with T600 who pushes (assuming all else fold), they gain my 200+150 from the blinds. Their stack is now t950 which is nearly equal to mine. Plus I am begging a big stack to push.

Ryan
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:40 PM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Re: every option seems bad here

Easy fold for me. Short of going all-in the risk of one of the other seven players raising you is too big.
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:43 PM
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limp and try to see a flop for set value. you have plenty of chips to dump this if raised more than a min-raise. call a min-raise for set value as well.

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how often do you think that you will be able to cheaply see a flop as you suggest, even after calling a min raise?

note: [ QUOTE ]
small blind (50), big blind (100)

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...and...
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Seat 3: montybear (595)
Seat 4: MARKGM (295)
Seat 5: BIRDDOG279 (655)
Seat 9: ohyouknow12 (595)

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...and...

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Seat 10: timetogonow (2025)
Seat 1: tpc23 (1520)

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sitting to your right.

I think most of the time you are going to see a preflop raise that is more than a minraise.
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Old 09-05-2005, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: every option seems bad here

I've limped hands like this and I've folded hands like this...folding usually works out better
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