AQs playalong

[deception5]

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Very good point. With your pfr, what are you representing? Quads? Are you hoping to clear the ones who forgot that you raised?

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Most likely an overpair...
A9s is also a possibility...

[Bodhi]

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Why would you play so passively when the pot is huge?

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Checking is not passive. Aggression vs. passivity is a function of (%bet+%raise)/%call.

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What if you have the best hand? A check lets all the other donkeys see a free card with their crap hands.

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We may have the best hand now, but not if someone has a pocket pair. As it is, our overcards are of the 'very weak' variety because we have no backdoor draws.

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I think you can afford to waste bets going after a huge pot like this.

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You contradict yourself (waste bets?). I can see your desire to be aggressive and win large pots, that's good. But you need to learn where your overcards are strong and where they're not. Here they're not. Take the free card.

[@bsolute_luck]

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If we had a backdoor flush here, I would bet. As it is, we have nothing and are behind all pocket pairs.

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we were behind them preflop too, but we raised anyways. what changed here?

whether you check it through or bet here, a lot of hands will call- especially overcards. why be concerned about odds at this point? checking gives any hand infinite odds, but we can't encourage missed hands to fold unless we bet in this big pot. IMO, it is easier to play the turn by betting instead of checking.

[xenthebrain]

Ok, this already got some discussion going.

I bet for the following reasons I thought of.

1) It's a ragged board and occasionally I will be ahead here even against 5 opponents. There are only 5 cards that connect with the board. And of course any PP:
There are no flush or straight draws so with what are they drawing if I bet and they want to call. Most likely to a pair, so anyone who folds helps me.

2) I might get a freecard on the turn.

So here is how it went on:

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls.

Turn: (8.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="blue">Hero ?</font>

[DeathDonkey]

Bet the best hand. Many in this thread have outlined good reasons to bet so I won't repeat them.

-DeathDonkey

[Bodhi]

It's really rare that my usual opponents put me on overpair's when I have them. I can't tell you how many times I raise with T's or something, flop rags and everyone calls, then an A falls on the turn and they all fold.

[DeathDonkey]

I really like betting the turn and folding to a checkraise.

-DeathDonkey

[2+2 wannabe]

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2) I might get a freecard on the turn.

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this is the only good reason to bet this flop - i admit it

[Bodhi]

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a check/raise would not be terrible as it would have an even better chance of thinning the field.

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Second time i've seen this opinion... A check-raise would be very bad. It thins the field, but at the cost of getting screwed on the flop. Do you really want to pay 2 small bets on this flop with Ace high????? [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[madscratch]

At this point I check the turn. The flop bet only thinned the field by one and we didn't improve on the turn. Anyone's *something* beats our unimproved nothing...