Early on: my best and worst starting hands - Page 2

Texas Pete · #11 07-26-2004, 11:39 PM

[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] CALLING THIS RAISE... MUST HAVE BEEN SMOKING CRACK!

Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t10 (9 handed)

SB (t1210.00)
BB (t3200.00)
UTG (t950.00)
UTG+1 (t735.00)
Hero (t705.00)
MP2 (t945.00)
MP3 (t830.00)
CO (t950.00)
Button (t475.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of t10.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t20, Hero calls t20, MP2 folds, MP3 raises to t130, CO folds, Button folds, SB (poster) folds, BB calls t110, UTG+1 calls t110, Hero calls t110.

Flop: (t530) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks, MP3 bets t150, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t680
Main Pot: t530 (t530), won by MP3.
Pot 2: t150 (t150), returned to MP3.

Results in white below: 
No showdown. MP3 wins t680.

durron597 · #12 07-26-2004, 11:42 PM

You answered your own question here. Fold that crap when out of position.

durron597 · #13 07-26-2004, 11:43 PM

Again, you answered your own question. Smoking crack to make that call.

Texas Pete · #14 07-26-2004, 11:44 PM

Yuck. I think betting the pot was a semi bluff. Turns out his raise was a retarded semi bluff, but oh well, it worked for him.

Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t10 (9 handed)

UTG+1 (t730.00)
MP1 (t505.00)
MP2 (t2165.00)
Hero (t790.00)
CO (t960.00)
Button (t2530.00)
SB (t890.00)
BB (t445.00)
UTG (t985.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of t10.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero raises to t40, CO calls t40, Button folds, SB (poster) calls t30, BB calls t20.

Flop: (t160) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t160, CO folds, SB calls t160, BB raises to t405, Hero calls t245, SB calls t245.

Turn: (t1375) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t345, SB calls t345.

River: (t2065) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)

Final Pot: t2065
Main Pot: t2065 (t2065), between Hero, SB and BB. > Pot won by SB (t2065).

Results in white below: 
BB shows 3c Kc (flush, king high).
Hero shows 9h Th (one pair, nines).
SB shows 4c Ac (flush, ace high).
Outcome: SB wins t2065.

Texas Pete · #15 07-26-2004, 11:50 PM

[img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] Fantastic... UTG and then calling a raise... I think i've seen enough.. conclusion is, like Mantis sorta said, there is nothing wrong with playing these hands IF YOU KNOW HOW. And it's very easy to know how.

Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t10 (7 handed)

Hero (t675.00)
MP1 (t1725.00)
MP2 (t1755.00)
CO (t1030.00)
Button (t2035.00)
SB (t2245.00)
BB (t535.00)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of t10.
Hero calls t20, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to t40, CO folds, Button calls t40, SB (poster) folds, BB folds, Hero calls t20.

Flop: (t150) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, Button bets t100, Hero folds, MP2 folds.

Final Pot: t250
Main Pot: t150 (t150), won by Button.
Pot 2: t100 (t100), returned to Button.

Results in white below: 
No showdown. Button wins t250.

Texas Pete · #16 07-27-2004, 12:06 AM

Let me reiterate. I have read on these boards that you should only play big starting hands in the early rounds. The very nice FAQ posted last week says it "costs to much" to play little hands. In looking at my own hand history, yes, I have verified it "costs to much" when I play these hands like a retard. But I say, playing these hands in late position with a multiway (say, 2 or 3 people already in) can give you a big win for a small risk. So i'm going to continue to play these hands-- in position, and correctly.

Texas Pete · #17 07-27-2004, 12:11 AM

People are saying just chuck it... why did it show up in my hall of shame?

Texas Pete · #18 07-27-2004, 12:15 AM

Basic poker here.. don't call 5BB UTG raise without AA...

Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t10 (9 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

SB (t933.00)
BB (t890.00)
UTG (t650.00)
UTG+1 (t778.00)
MP1 (t1240.00)
Hero (t923.00)
MP3 (t2730.00)
CO (t931.00)
Button (t925.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of t10.
UTG calls t20, UTG+1 raises to t55, MP1 folds, Hero calls t55, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB (poster) calls t45, BB folds, UTG calls t35.

Flop: (t240) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t240) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets t150, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t150, Hero folds.

River: (t540) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t728, UTG+1 folds.

Final Pot: t1268
Main Pot: t540 (t540), won by SB.
Pot 2: t728 (t728), returned to SB.

Results in white below: 
SB doesn't show.
Outcome: SB wins t1268.

Texas Pete · #19 07-27-2004, 12:21 AM

Paying for too much aggression.

Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t10 (6 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

Button (t2160.00)
SB (t980.00)
Hero (t990.00)
UTG (t1950.00)
MP (t810.00)
CO (t3110.00)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of t10.
UTG calls t20, MP folds, CO folds, Button raises to t55, SB (poster) calls t45, Hero calls t35, UTG calls t35.

Flop: (t220) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets t50, Hero raises to t100, UTG folds, Button folds, SB calls t50.

Turn: (t420) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t100, SB calls t100.

River: (t620) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t620
Main Pot: t620 (t620), between SB and Hero. > Pot won by SB (t620).

Results in white below: 
SB shows 8c 8h (one pair, eights).
Hero shows 6h Kh (one pair, sixes).
Outcome: SB wins t620.

Texas Pete · #20 07-27-2004, 12:26 AM

This is OK. For effect. Big stack, mixin it up a bit in the early rounds. Sort of ruined by the flop.

Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t10 (9 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

Hero (t2060.00)
Button (t1020.00)
SB (t920.00)
BB (t1075.00)
UTG (t880.00)
UTG+1 (t1035.00)
MP1 (t985.00)
MP2 (t1160.00)
MP3 (t865.00)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of t10.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t20, Hero raises to t60, Button folds, SB (poster) calls t50, BB folds, MP3 calls t40.

Flop: (t200) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets t75, MP3 folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t275
Main Pot: t200 (t200), won by SB.
Pot 2: t75 (t75), returned to SB.

Results in white below: 
No showdown. SB wins t275.