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Old 11-26-2005, 04:11 PM
milesdyson milesdyson is offline
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Default Re: Call this river raise?

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Both of the blinds have a > 70% fold to steal,

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Opp is 57.6/0/0.6

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he has been dealt really bad hands in those steal situations. he does not fold more than 70% of the time against a steal.
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Old 11-26-2005, 04:12 PM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Am I the only one that 3-bets, calls the cap? I fully expect two pair. Most fishies will raise their flush on the turn, so as to disguise it when they bluff at the turn scarecard. I don't see him just calling flopped two pair or a set either.

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if you get capped on this board your hand is no good. although i really don't know how the .50/1.00 plays anymore so its hard to say.

that said, when i read the hand i thought the real question or not was between calling and 3-betting, not calling and folding. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 11-26-2005, 04:13 PM
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This would be a very, very bad fold. You're against trips or a two pair way too often to fold this. I'm not folding even if my bet and villain's raise are the only bets in the pot.
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Old 11-26-2005, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: Call this river raise?

Do most people check/call to the river with 2-pair or a flush? Of course you call.
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Old 11-27-2005, 01:00 AM
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fold preflop, dont even think about folding river
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Old 11-27-2005, 04:24 AM
SCfuji SCfuji is offline
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Default Re: Call this river raise?

somebody convince me not to 3 bet. this looks like a lone 6 more often than anything that beats us. im thinking that fish raises the turn when he hits his flush and raises a set earlier especially with that third club on the turn. and with the river pairing the board i think the fish just calls our 3 bet (even with a flush) and only caps with an unfishly played set that rivered a house.
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Old 11-27-2005, 09:50 AM
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Default Re: Call this river raise?

i play the entire hand the same way.
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Old 11-27-2005, 11:26 AM
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In my opinion, calling is too passive. I 3-bet. If he picked up a full house on the river, then that means he had 2 pair on the turn. Why would he not raise 2 pair on the turn? Even the most passive of fish will typically raise you w/ 2 pair on the turn. He didn't raise you on the turn, so it's doubtful he hit the flush and more often than not all he has is trip 6's. 3-bet and push. If you get unlucky, oh well.

When I have a straight like this, I push as hard as possible. The times when you are beaten by a full house are so rare, that all the other times you are hold the winning hand and push more than make up for it.
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Old 11-27-2005, 11:47 AM
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Opp had Q2s for the flush btw.
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