I'm a $200 PLO/8 calling station

TGoldman · #1 10-23-2005, 10:32 PM

I hate the way I checked and called this hand the whole way, yet I can't think of another way to play it. Does anyone play it differently?

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha/8, $2 BB (9 handed) converter

BB ($146.35)
UTG ($195.25)
UTG+1 ($200)
MP1 ($435.95)
MP2 ($104)
MP3 ($248.80)
CO ($284.85)
Button ($214.50)
Hero ($198)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $4, 3 folds, MP3 calls $4, CO calls $4, Button calls $4, Hero calls $3, BB calls $2.

Flop: ($24) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $12, MP3 calls $12, CO folds, Button calls $12, Hero calls $12, BB folds.

Turn: ($72) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks, Button bets $26, Hero calls $26, UTG calls $26, MP3 calls $26.

River: ($176) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $153.25 (All-In), MP3 folds, Button folds, Hero calls $153.25.

Final Pot: $482.50

emptyshell · #2 10-23-2005, 10:57 PM

You could have raised that weak-looking bet on the flop and then lead out on the turn, that might have taken it down.

Ribbo · #3 10-23-2005, 11:08 PM

Feels kinda value betting with A23 from the other guy. Wonder what his 4th card was....

TGoldman · #4 10-23-2005, 11:20 PM

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You could have raised that weak-looking bet on the flop and then lead out on the turn, that might have taken it down.

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That would certainly be a more aggressive line. When it came back around to me, I called figuring it couldn't possibly be a mistake getting 5:1 odds. On the other hand, I wasn't as confident that my hand was strong enough to play heads-up for all my chips against a single opponent. Given the choice between an easy +EV call or a possible -EV mistake, I chose the easy call. Of course, that doesn't consider folding equity, which may be quite large given the betting action on the flop.

TGoldman · #5 10-23-2005, 11:26 PM

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Feels kinda value betting with A23 from the other guy. Wonder what his 4th card was....

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Pretty good read. Villain had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] which was good for 3/4 of the pot.

Jorge10 · #6 10-23-2005, 11:28 PM

Ok why are you calling the flop when you saw two others call? Tell me what card were you hoping for on the turn?

Ill tell you, you dont like a single turn card outside of a low diamond and even then all it does is make you hope for a draw that is coming roughly 20% of the time with 1 card to come.

This is an easy fold on the flop given the action that took place. I mean say a miracle 10 comes on the turn first guy bets, a guy snaps and reraises, What do you do?

Im not saying that will happen, but there is definately something there when 2 people call the bet, also what makes you think you are the only low? There is no way another A/2 is not out there.

Think about why you are calling, and no nut low against 4 people is not good enough.

Jorge10 · #7 10-23-2005, 11:31 PM

Also the reraise and pick it up on the turn plan, thats good given you have position, you could raise and hope for a 9 or higher then you could jam and pick it up. If a low card comes you check and then get potted on the river and lose the least you could by only getting quartered in a small pot. Its an aggressive move that can work given your position. Maybe once in a while you run into a worst high. Also on the other side of the coin you will run into a set of queens who was playing it slow cause of slow cards every one in a while as well, but overall its a move that could work and can help your image if the low comes and they see your pair of 5's.