Re-raised on the turn

jakbse · #1 09-21-2005, 02:05 PM

Villian here is LP-P 42/2/0,9 over 51 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets, MP2 folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero calls.

River: (9.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.25 BB

My qustion is what to do in the turn, when a passive player check rasies me it normally indicates a big hand. I think this situation is a bit tricky. My thinking is that I'm probably beat, but am I beat often enough to justify a fold? My strategy is most often to call down as in this example.

gharp · #2 09-21-2005, 02:11 PM

I don't think you have enough hands on him to fold with confidence on the turn. I'd play it the same.

#3 09-21-2005, 02:33 PM

I fold this vs a passive player.

#4 09-21-2005, 02:39 PM

Against unknowns at this level (51 hands isn't enough evidence for post-flop aggression), I'd also call down here. If they have the K, I'll make a mental note that they probably aren't a tricky player - and then fold the turn safely.

Fantam · #5 09-21-2005, 02:42 PM

The BB may well have you beat, but I think that sometimes players like to bluff when a scard card appears on the turn.

I think that until you have what you regard as a solid read on your opponent, that it is probably best to call down in a reasonable sized pot, as you did, in situations like this.

kapw7 · #6 09-21-2005, 02:45 PM

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I fold this vs a passive player.

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This is a big mistake. I have seen players with AF<0.5 over 200+ hands (and NOT 51!) to bluff similar boards.

#7 09-21-2005, 02:57 PM

I think villian has a K around 90% of the time. I have never experienced a checkraise bluff on 1/2 yet(and around 2k hands) and I have pretty much called down hands just like this atleast 10 times to always find out I am beat.

kapw7 · #8 09-21-2005, 03:08 PM

OK my experience is from 3/6. However you cannot be sure 90% based on stat numbers only and especially within only 51 hands.