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Old 10-12-2005, 02:42 AM
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Default KK - flop play

Online 4 handed

Spaz: Too loose, too agressive. Loves to gay bet, stop-n-go, limp-raise, stuff like that.

Unknown Dude: He's unknown.

Spaz limps, I raise next in with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], SB folds, Unknown Dude calls in the BB, Spaz calls.

3 to the flop, 6 small bets.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Uknown Dude checks, Spaz bets....

Go.
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Old 10-12-2005, 02:51 AM
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Raise it up. He has a T or a tiny pair. Call a 3-bet.
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Old 10-12-2005, 02:51 AM
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Default Re: KK - flop play

raise. for everybody that says wait until the turn, the sucky spaz is gonna bet the turn a good % anyways so start raising now.
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Old 10-12-2005, 02:54 AM
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Raise it up. He has a T or a tiny pair. Call a 3-bet.

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If this is correct, is raising the best play?
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Old 10-12-2005, 02:56 AM
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Default Re: KK - flop play

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If this is correct, is raising the best play?

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Loves to gay bet, stop-n-go,

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i think so.
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Old 10-12-2005, 03:07 AM
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If this is correct, is raising the best play?

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Loves to gay bet, stop-n-go,

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i think so.

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So you think I win more overall by raising as opposed to calling?

This is what I'm really trying to get at.
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Old 10-12-2005, 03:13 AM
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If this is correct, is raising the best play?

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Loves to gay bet, stop-n-go,

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i think so.

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So you think I win more overall by raising as opposed to calling?

This is what I'm really trying to get at.

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I think we need to fold unknown dude to get this HU.
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Old 10-12-2005, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: KK - flop play

if hes going to stop and go the turn more often than checking the turn, yes i think you win more by raising on the flop because he will let you raise him on the turn.
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Old 10-12-2005, 03:18 AM
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I think we need to fold unknown dude to get this HU.


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How come?
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Old 10-12-2005, 03:22 AM
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if hes going to stop and go the turn more often than checking the turn, yes i think you win more by raising on the flop because he will let you raise him on the turn.

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This is a good point, but if I just call the flop I'm 100% sure he will bet the turn. (As opposed to not 100% he would gay bet it if I raised the flop.)

Also, if I just call the flop and the Uknown Dude calls behind me do I want to raise when Spaz bets the turn or go for another overcall? (Assuming a blank comes off.)
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