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12-22-2005, 09:18 PM
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Hand Vs Good Player
Button 17/12/2.6 Opens, I call with red JT
Flop Q94 with 2 spades. I check-call. Turn offsuit 3. I check-raise, he calls River Offsuit T I bet with intention of folding to a raise 
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#2
12-22-2005, 09:25 PM
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Re: Hand Vs Good Player
I was going to bet the river if I missed
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#3
12-22-2005, 09:33 PM
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Re: Hand Vs Good Player
You are sb or bb? It doesn't matter much but I am curious.
I think the hand is fine, very villain dependent. I play this the same way sometimes, particularly against opponents who like to fold. I agree with your river plan, you can safely fold to a raise.
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#4
12-22-2005, 09:41 PM
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Re: Hand Vs Good Player
I was BB sorry
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#5
12-22-2005, 11:56 PM
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Re: Hand Vs Good Player
I prefer playing it faster on the flop.
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#6
12-23-2005, 12:16 AM
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Re: Hand Vs Good Player
I usually do that also, so just the standard line here? Bet until we get more resistance and then usually shut down if we miss? I think I have been raised so often on the turn in this spot lately that I tried to do something different. Back to the basics.
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#7
12-23-2005, 01:12 AM
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Re: Hand Vs Good Player
Agreed w/ the fast play on the flop. Gives other hands an easier opportunity to get away. Seems like my opponents get stubborn when i raise on the turn.
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#8
12-23-2005, 12:07 PM
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Re: Hand Vs Good Player
CR'ing the turn sucks cos you gotta bet the river to get KJ/KT to fold (although it's still not _bad_).
CR'ing the flop sucks because there's a flush draw out and he'll put you on a draw too easily. Find another (trickier) line if it works for you [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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#9
12-24-2005, 06:07 PM
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Re: Hand Vs Good Player
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CR'ing the flop sucks because there's a flush draw out and he'll put you on a draw too easily. [/ QUOTE ] Doesn't that give us an additional 7 outs then? And aren't you assuming that we always check-raise draws and such? What if our style is to frequently check-call flush draws, and check-raise made hands, only attacking with straight draws like this? Is he really going to call down with a middle pocket pair or a weak ace high here? Essentially, your argument is that you should never check-raise a draw unless the board seems to be draw-free. That's silly. -Eric
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#10
12-25-2005, 01:33 AM
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Re: Hand Vs Good Player
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I prefer playing it faster on the flop. [/ QUOTE ] agreed. i like bet/3bet. there are lots of cards that can come on the turn that will scare him off of a better hand if you take this line imo.
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