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Old 11-21-2005, 08:57 AM
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Default AK Early Tourney - Getting away from it.

AK in the CO, only 7 players at the table (2 are away, one seat empty). Blinds 15-30, my stack around 1900, UTG stack around 4000.

One UTG limper big stack, I raise 4xbb, BB calls and UTG calls.

Flop is 6A7.

I make a half pot cb, he min raises, I call. He checks the turn and I make a 3/4 pot bet, he moves me all in and I call.

UTG shows 76, makes a full house on the river.

Anyway to avoid hands like this?
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:06 AM
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Default Re: AK Early Tourney - Getting away from it.

ask yourself what your opponent may have to make such a bet
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:19 AM
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Default Re: AK Early Tourney - Getting away from it.

I did, and the answer was Ace-x. He was big stack early because he played crap cards and got idiots to go all in against him. I saw him show down an ace with a 6 kicker on one hand, and middle pair on another.

His UTG limp further said to me something like Ace-8, Ace-9. It wouldnt make sense that he limped with 76o and called 3xBB more with it OOP. But he did :P

Only thing I was worried about was Ace-6, Ace-7, and by the turn I was thinking about how I was going to get all my chips in.
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Old 11-21-2005, 09:57 AM
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Default Re: AK Early Tourney - Getting away from it.

I think his agression could make me think he hit a set on the flop. You said he was a big stack so I could see him playing pocket pairs, even to a raise.

Personally, I think it would be hard to get away from this hand, though I'm not the best of players.
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Old 11-21-2005, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: AK Early Tourney - Getting away from it.

I think when you go up against lag big stack early, you're stack is always in peril. That said I feel that a larger than average raise say 5-6 bb is more appropriate so if you get a caller before him the price isn't so good. Otherwise he could be inclined to see a flop with 67o. He was willing to limp in the first place why not punish him a little more for the privilege?
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:04 AM
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ur line was fine, dont expect this to happen often coz he needs to hit the flop hard to profit at all.
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Old 11-21-2005, 10:44 AM
elmitchbo elmitchbo is offline
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Default Re: AK Early Tourney - Getting away from it.

what we see here is the benefit of being a LAG. this guy could very well be a donkey getting lucky, or he could be a very good player.

a good LAG will take a line just like this guy did, and he'll get called because people are thinking 'this guy is a lucky donk.'

onyour line... when you get check raised twice you need to start thinking something bad might happen if you call.
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Old 11-21-2005, 11:24 AM
Solitare Solitare is offline
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Default Re: AK Early Tourney - Getting away from it.

What was the turn?
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: AK Early Tourney - Getting away from it.

Turn was a brick, a trey if I remember.

By the time he check-raised me the 2nd time I had maybe 600 chips left and the pot was up to around 2k, by that time there wasnt much left for me to do.

The check-raise minimum on the flop I thought was simply him putting me on a pair of 10s or so and re-raising with his ace-x. But sadly, was not the case. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 11-21-2005, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: AK Early Tourney - Getting away from it.

Maybe, check behind on the turn after being checkraised on the flop.

You almost have odds to call the checkraise on the turn even if you know what villain's hand is.
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