floped a set...time to get paid

pokerjoker · #1 12-18-2005, 10:42 PM

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

BB ($288.10)
UTG ($192)
UTG+1 ($147.40)
MP1 ($177.40)
MP2 ($391.75)
MP3 ($332)
Hero ($198.80)
Button ($149.70)
SB ($198.55)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $4, MP1 calls $4, MP2 raises to $10, 1 fold, Hero calls $10, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $6, MP1 calls $6.

Flop: ($43) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets $30, Hero calls $30, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds.

Turn: ($103) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $60,

anyone get more aggro on flop? Is turn bet OK? My reasoning for just calling flop was to try and get money in from the other two guys

Gregg777 · #2 12-18-2005, 10:45 PM

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I would raise the flop to 60 because it looks like you are just challenging their c-bet with position.

If he calls and you 1/2 pot the turn your hand doesn't look as strong as it is, and it's easy to get the rest in on the river.

soah · #3 12-18-2005, 11:22 PM

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I would raise the flop to 60 because it looks like you are just challenging their c-bet with position.

If he calls and you 1/2 pot the turn your hand doesn't look as strong as it is, and it's easy to get the rest in on the river.

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Since when does a minraise in a multiway reraised pot not look at all strong?

Gregg777 · #4 12-18-2005, 11:29 PM

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Since when does a minraise in a multiway reraised pot not look at all strong?

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I didn't say it wasn't strong.

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After you call the flop you have $160 left in a $100 pot. How hard can it possibly be to get the rest of your stack in with position across two more betting rounds? What's the rush?

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Everybody seems to think villain doesn't have anything and is looking to fold.

If that's the case, in my experience, some donk at Party NL200 calling a minraise, is more likely than someone calling a blank turn if they check it.

I don't think villain is that weak based on the preflop action. Although UTG only raised to 4, MP2 didn't seem worried about getting re-raised again preflop, so I wouldn't rule out an overpair.

soah · #5 12-18-2005, 11:37 PM

If he has an overpair then what's wrong with calling?

Gregg777 · #6 12-18-2005, 11:42 PM

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If he has an overpair then what's wrong with calling?

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Absolutely nothing.

Most of the time I would call, but OP gives no read on villain, so I tend to post based on what I have seen lately, which has been aggressive donks thinking I am making a play more than smart thinking players [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

If OP had said villain was solid, then I would say call.

Leptyne · #7 12-19-2005, 12:14 AM

Certainly you would be challenging the CB with a raise, but you mighht take the pot down for no gain. A call hopefully gets at least one other caller. When the turn blanks there just isn't anything there. What kind of hand do you think checks and calls a 1/2 pot turn bet? Villain won't always have a good second-best hand.

srm80 · #8 12-18-2005, 10:52 PM

i don't like check calling with 2 players behind you, i would either have bet out $40 or $45, or check with the intention of raising to at least $100. I like a PSB or all in on the turn.

deadmoney98 · #9 12-18-2005, 10:55 PM

I like the way you played this. Not much you can do if your opponent has Ace high, he is not paying off anything.

Gregg777 · #10 12-18-2005, 11:02 PM

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Not much you can do if your opponent has Ace high, he is not paying off anything.

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That's why I would rather try to get a call on the flop instead of hoping for him to catch on the turn and insta folding to any blank.