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Old 10-06-2005, 12:46 PM
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Default Bad play on these hands?

Hi everybody,
this is my first post, although i have visited these forums for quite a while.I have been playing poker for several months now and everything has gone well so far. The last 2 weeks however i have suffered a huge downswing and i am not confident with my play anymore. I feel i misplace my aggression and start calling with weak hands... Well i'm not really sure about that.I can't seem to see wether a play is good or bad anymore,i'm totally unconfident!!! So i decided to post some hands here to read your comments on my play.

Here comes the first hand. Both opponents are kinda loose preflop and passive postflop.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (15.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 21.75 BB


Here the second hand,i don't have a read on my opponent here.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO (poster) raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (19 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (14 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, MP2 folds.

River: (16 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18 BB

This is the last hand. I'm quite sure i played this one correctly. Both opponents are loose and passive.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB

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Old 10-06-2005, 12:52 PM
istewart istewart is offline
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Default Re: Bad play on these hands?

On the turn in the first hand, WTF? UTG+2 has basically typed "I have a flush" in the chatbox, and he's not putting you on one if you 3-bet.
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: Bad play on these hands?

Give me three reasons why you did not cap the turn on hand #1?
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Old 10-06-2005, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: Bad play on these hands?

Here is what I would do:

Hand 1: Call the river. I think he filled up

Hand 2: Same

Hand 3: Same

I don't really reply to hands much but I need to start. Is this close to right anyone
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:02 PM
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Default Re: Bad play on these hands?

Hardly can't find one myself. Maybe i wanted the second opponent to stay in? On the other side he wouldn't have folded anyway...maybe with 2pair.
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Bad play on these hands?

Cap the turn in Hand 1; bet/call the river.

Bet the river in Hand 3.
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: Bad play on these hands?

The reason why i didn't bet the river in hand 3 is that both opponents are loose and passive. One of them could easily have an A or a 5. If the river wasn't the 5 i would have bet or maybe if there was only one opponent. But here i think i have to fear an A calling or even a 5 check-raising.
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Old 10-06-2005, 01:45 PM
lautzutao lautzutao is offline
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Default Re: Bad play on these hands?

Hand 1 is the classic new player mistake. They don't cap when they have the stone cold nuts but when they're possibly beat? Look out, pedal to the medal!!! CAP THE TURN ALL IN WHATEVER. Villian definitely has the FH or is a total fool, just call the river.

The other two hands I think you played fine. I completely agree with your assessment of the 3rd hand. I don't think you're ahead enough here to make betting profitable. One of these two has a crap ace and has been calling you down.
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