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Old 11-08-2005, 06:52 PM
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Default ($22)Flush draw and 2 overcards...standard push or reckless?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP1 (t1165)
MP2 (t1355)
MP3 (t690)
CO (t790)
Button (t740)
SB (t320)
Hero (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t540)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to t60</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls t60, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t45, UTG folds.

Flop: (t205) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets t225</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t740 (All-In)</font>, UTG+2 calls t255 (All-In).

Turn: (t1425) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t1425) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1425
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Old 11-08-2005, 07:50 PM
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Default Re: ($22)Flush draw and 2 overcards...standard push or reckless?

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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP1 (t1165)
MP2 (t1355)
MP3 (t690)
CO (t790)
Button (t740)
SB (t320)
Hero (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t540)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises to t60</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls t60, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t45, UTG folds.

Flop: (t205) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets t225</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t740 (All-In)</font>, UTG+2 calls t255 (All-In).

Turn: (t1425) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t1425) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1425

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I don't like it. Unless you have some reason to suspect that you're already ahead. You are basically risking 480 for a reward of 600. So 1.25-1 on your money. If you put him on JJ or QQ then your A and K are both outs giving you 14...but I dunno, this may be AT, or TT, which will discount your outs.

Your FE (given villain's flop bet) has to be zero considering also what he has behind.

Ok this push might be neutral to slightly plus...but its close.
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Old 11-08-2005, 08:16 PM
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Default Re: ($22)Flush draw and 2 overcards...standard push or reckless?

I will gets my chips in before the flop and either hope for all folds or if they do call I have better hand and then it is just luck but I am favorit. This is how I play.
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