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Old 11-28-2005, 08:59 PM
jt1 jt1 is offline
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Default Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats in

hand 2- you can also try for a check raise to either build the pot or win the pot with a turn bet depending on who bet the flop.
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Old 11-28-2005, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside

I don't know of anybody that can beat the game if they only win 51.47% of showdowns. Everything else looks fine to me
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Old 11-28-2005, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside

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I don't know of anybody that can beat the game if they only win 51.47% of showdowns. Everything else looks fine to me

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What are you talking about? That's a pretty standard W$SD for winning players. You should shoot for between 50-57%. If you're much higher than 57 it actually means that you are folding way too much and getting pushed around.
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:24 PM
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Default Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside

Do me one favor go back and separate a block of 5k hands where you won less than 53% of your showdowns and still was beating the the game, then we will talk more.
Op is beating the game when he wins 56% of showdowns but is loosing at 51%. My stats says that 53% breakeven 55% I'm a 2bb/100 hands. Granted I may have leaks elsewhere.
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside

I agree that over 57% you are probably not going to showdown enough, but op is going there ~32% of time. So here I think there could be a scenario of just running bad.

I believe he should be winning more than the .2 bb/100 hands at a won$ at SD of 56 as his first 34k hands shows. That tells me something is wrong with his game, but his last 6.5k hands does not
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside

My win at showdown % is a shade over 54%,

and this worries me a little bit.
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside

how many hands, what limit, are you winning?
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:56 PM
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Default Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside

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how many hands, what limit, are you winning?

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I am winning. Limits 1/2, 2/4, 3/6 a combined 52k hands this year. I am at work so I can't give you the breakdown, but the majority of the hands are 2/4.
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside

Wow! Should my AG be this high? 3.1 river AG. Maybe I am way to passive.

What are the "ideal" AG numbers by street for 1/2, 2/4?
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Old 11-28-2005, 11:13 PM
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Default Re: Should I quit? 35k hands at 1/2 and still breaking even..Stats inside

I don't play 1/2 and 2/4 so I don't want to comment there. I have played 35k hands of 3-6 and I'm winning 1.06 BB/100 at a showdown % of 55.8. I would say that with a showdown winning % of 54 you are about a .5 bb/100
It is my opinion that showdown % is an effect line and can explain a lot about our results and I have seen very little detailed discussion on it, just general BS stuff. Like to see breakdown when you get a chance. good luck
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