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Old 10-09-2005, 02:08 PM
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Default PartyGaming as an investment - Quick thoughts

Why Party may be a good buy now?... because it may take the analysts some time to figure out what we already know, that Party's action this weekend is +EV for them. (ie the company is good)

Why Party may not be a good buy now?... bacause the stock may still be over priced. (ie the stock is bad) [Maybe one of the fundies in here will run an analysis on the numbers]
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Old 10-10-2005, 03:50 AM
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They don't even know what the real news is!

From the financial times in london this morning...

On the downside, Partygaming lost further ground with a 1.3 per cent decline to 79p after investors seemed unimpressed with news of a single account system for its 9 million customers.
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Old 10-10-2005, 03:56 AM
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Empire down about 12% out defending its stock...

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- Empire Online (UK:EOL) , a network and marketing services company for the online gaming industry, said Monday that third-quarter trading has been very strong, with net gaming revenue up 71% compared to a year ago, at $31.4 million. Poker operations accounted for $23.0 million of the revenue, while casinos accounted for $8.4 million of revenue.
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Old 10-10-2005, 04:02 AM
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And Reuters thoughts...

On the downside, PartyGaming (PRTY.L: Quote, Profile, Research) shed 2.2 percent after the Chief Executive of Empire Online (EOL.L: Quote, Profile, Research) warned on Monday that the overall online gaming market showed virtually no growth during the third quarter on 2005.
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Old 10-10-2005, 04:30 AM
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And more spin control...

Empire defies fears of internet poker slowdown
By Tom Griggs FT.com, 08:15 BST Oct 10, 2005

The slowdown of growth in internet poker does not appear to have affected Empire Online which said that revenues jumped 71 per cent in the third quarter.

Although investors continued to treat the sector with caution following the warning from PartyGaming over growth prospects and the flat listing by 888.com in Spetember, as Empire shares fell 13.66 per cent in early trading to 158p.

The online poker group said in a trading statement on Monday that the number of real money players increased 62 per cent to 53,148 compared to last year, a jump of 24 per cent compared to the second quarter. Net revenues from gaming leapt from $18.3m in the third quarter last year to $31.4m in the same quarter this year, and 24 per cent compared to the previous quarter.

Empire, which ended talks over a £791m takeover by Sportingbet at the end of September, estimated that operating profits for the quarter would be $16.1m, a rise of 43 per cent compared to $11.3m last year. It said that over 40 per cent of the new real money players had come through its own platforms, Noble Poker and Club Dice, which it acquired over the summer.

"We are delighted in our strong trading and the strategic advances we have made during the third quarter," said Noam Lanir, chief executive. "In a period where there has been much uncertainty over potential growth rates in the online gaming industry as a whole we believe our results demonstrate the strength of our core marketing skills."

Last month, PartyGaming, the world's largest internet gambling group, saw its shares fall by a third when it said that customer growth had slowed while player retention rates and player yields had declined at rates "greater than expected", prompting fears that the online poker fad had come to an end.

However, analysts at Altium Securities, said that Empire's results demonstrated that "the majority of Party Gaming's woes are company specific".

Mr Lanir attributed Empire's success to its diversification strategy of directing new players to its own platforms, such as Noble Poker, and away from so-called "skins" such as EmpirePoker.com which uses PartyGaming technology.

In a separate announcement, PartyGaming said on Monday that it had changed its operating platform and would separate its own players from those from other companies, such as Empire, using skins. The new system will allow its customers to play a range of different games in addition to poker on the same platform, and to make side bets and deals in poker tournaments.

The change was welcomed by Empire which said that its EmpireOnline.com skin would be enhanced by the inclusion of beginners' tables with low buy in costs, as well as tables with bet limits of $100/$200.
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Old 10-10-2005, 04:39 AM
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Default Re: PartyGaming as an investment - Quick thoughts

yea good find FT.com rules..I was looking for the Empire press release NOT Party press release.

Does Empire Online have an Invesors Relations url?..tried to goggle it real fast and could'nt find it.
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Old 10-10-2005, 05:03 AM
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Probably worth noting that SportingBet (SBT.L) is also taking a nice hit so far today down about 6%.
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Old 10-10-2005, 05:17 AM
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Here's the link to Empire's press release...
http://investors.ep.com/Q3_Trading_Update.htm
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Old 10-10-2005, 05:43 AM
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Neteller (NLR.L) down 9%.
Party (PRTY.L) down 9%
Empire (EOL.L) down 23%
Sportingbet (SBT.L) down 6%
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Old 10-10-2005, 05:48 AM
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The change was welcomed by Empire which said that its EmpireOnline.com skin would be enhanced by the inclusion of beginners' tables with low buy in costs, as well as tables with bet limits of $100/$200.

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