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Old 04-14-2005, 01:52 PM
gonores gonores is offline
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Default OK, I can\'t get a consensus....HU vs. Mad Genius

Final table of the 150+12 on stars last night. It's down to 2+2er Mad Genius and me. I know he is a 2+2er because I checked up on the MTT thread about the tourney and he was posting in it. He doesn't know who I am because I rarely play on stars and I didn't post in the thread.

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When we were 3 handed, Genius came over the top of my SB steal raise, I folded, and he talked a little junk to me. It was apparent he was sick of my incessant blind stealing.

Also while 3 handed, I was called a few times when I raised preflop, and postflop, I checkfolded and checked behind pretty much every time I didn't improve

I've min-raised Genius 2x already in our HU battle.

Blinds: 6k/12k/600

I'm dealt red aces UTG/OTB/SB. I minraise to 24k. He calls

Flop: 2s 4s 8d

He checks, I bet 24k, he raises to 60k, I call.

Turn: Qs

He bets 48k, I raise all-in for 168k more.
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Old 04-14-2005, 02:07 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: OK, I can\'t get a consensus....HU vs. Mad Genius

did he cover you?

also, i totally thought this was a mike caro post [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 04-14-2005, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: OK, I can\'t get a consensus....HU vs. Mad Genius

call the turn, don't push. pushing is gonna fold only hands you beat. as for a scary river, a 4th spade is going to help you not lose money to a small flush more than cost you money against a one pair hand.

unless you think you are bluffing here? but i cant imagine him ever folding a hand that is beating you. so, still just call.
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Old 04-14-2005, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: OK, I can\'t get a consensus....HU vs. Mad Genius

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as for a scary river, a 4th spade is going to help you not lose money to a small flush more than cost you money against a one pair hand.


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Maybe, but it's hard to fold the river when the opponent has the flush less than 50% of the time.
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Old 04-14-2005, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: OK, I can\'t get a consensus....HU vs. Mad Genius

How big was his stack?
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Old 04-14-2005, 02:36 PM
nolanfan34 nolanfan34 is offline
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Default Re: OK, I can\'t get a consensus....HU vs. Mad Genius

Oh great, just what we need, you're playing tournaments now? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Nice finish last night.

I don't think you're moving him off of a better hand, so you're probably only getting called if you're behind.

I'd try to call down most likely.
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Old 04-14-2005, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: OK, I can\'t get a consensus....HU vs. Mad Genius

I meant, that if your opponent has a small flush he very well might slow down not that you will find an easy fold.
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Old 04-14-2005, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: OK, I can\'t get a consensus....HU vs. Mad Genius

Ahhhh, misread. Sorry!
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Old 04-14-2005, 02:40 PM
Mad Genius1 Mad Genius1 is offline
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Default Re: OK, I can\'t get a consensus....HU vs. Mad Genius

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How big was his stack?

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Gonores had me covered by a little bit, but I'm pretty sure the winner of the hand was gonna most likely win the tournament.
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Old 04-14-2005, 03:13 PM
La Brujita La Brujita is offline
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Default Re: OK, I can\'t get a consensus....HU vs. Mad Genius

I hate disagreeing with MLG because it usually means my game is in the toilet but I liked the way you played the hand.

The way I look at it is the pot has 170k before the turn.

Not sure what the turn bet means, middle pocket pair that wants to get away cheap against a queen or a flush, some kind of pair plus draw, bigger hand maybe?

You only have 220k in front of you and the pot is already that big. I am at that point more worried about taking down the pot than having hands that are behind fold. I feel they might well call an all in with a hand you have beat a reasonable amount of the time anyways.

My thinking is I am not getting away from my aces, the pot is big, and I am happy to make him pay to draw to 11 outs if that is the case.
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