AKs UI - Button vs. SB (0.25/0.50 Stars)

ninjaunderwear · #1 12-13-2005, 02:03 PM

What is the rationale behind the turn check-raise? And how is it an improvement over simply betting out?

#2 12-13-2005, 02:14 PM

Bet/fold turn. Why are you raising?

#3 12-13-2005, 02:15 PM

Check the post times. Great minds think alike.... or something.....

Aaron W. · #4 12-13-2005, 03:17 PM

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Check the post times. Great minds think alike.... or something.....

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It gets even freakier. There were no posts in the any of the forums between ours...

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#5 12-13-2005, 03:27 PM

First post - but AK gives me fits. I see it as basically a great drawing hand, but if you don't improve, it loses its value too quickly. I think in this situation, I call preflop, check the flop and check fold the turn. It's not improving - no flush possibility, no straight possibility. If ou hit the A or the K, you are susceptible to Qx.

Again - I'm not an expert - far from it, so I'm really interested in what people have to say on this, and don't take this post as any sort of useful info. Just my thoughts.

#6 12-13-2005, 03:36 PM

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First post - but AK gives me fits. I see it as basically a great drawing hand, but if you don't improve, it loses its value too quickly. I think in this situation, I call preflop, check the flop and check fold the turn. It's not improving - no flush possibility, no straight possibility. If ou hit the A or the K, you are susceptible to Qx.

Again - I'm not an expert - far from it, so I'm really interested in what people have to say on this, and don't take this post as any sort of useful info. Just my thoughts.

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You want to bet the flop since the button may have been stealing with a wide range of hands. Unless he has a pocket pair or one of the five cards that beat you (2 q's and 3 2s) you are ahead in the hand. If you check/call then check/fold you invite the sharks to pick on your blinds. Remember he has to hit his, or we are ahead on this flop with our ace king.

#7 12-13-2005, 04:45 PM

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You want to bet the flop since the button may have been stealing with a wide range of hands. Unless he has a pocket pair or one of the five cards that beat you (2 q's and 3 2s) you are ahead in the hand. If you check/call then check/fold you invite the sharks to pick on your blinds. Remember he has to hit his, or we are ahead on this flop with our ace king.

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That makes sense. The thing that ties me up is that at this level, you're always at the table with some guy who won't bet out or raise you, even when he has the Q. Heck, even when he has Q2 in this hand. (He'll also cold call raises or reraise preflop with the Q2...go figure) You bet, he checks, you check, he checks - all the way to the river. There are no reads in the hand posted in this thread, but I hate that guy, wherever he is. Especially when he beats me at the river and acts like he's the next Phil Ivey. I know I'll come back and break that guy eventually, but still...