Are low buy-in PL MTTs always so bad?

boondockst · #1 10-24-2005, 07:02 AM

The preflop action here almost made me sick on my monitor.....Apparently the graphic for the slider is broken somehow.....I can't figure out if QQ or AT played it worse.

Blind defense against pot-sized raises is stiffer than i've seen in a 0.5/1 game on party. Limp reraising with ATo? I With adjustments, these seem juicy.

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 (t2257)
Hero (t2470)
CO (t6412)
Button (t2365)
SB (t2332)
BB (t1030)
UTG (t560)
UTG+1 (t4375)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t200, MP1 calls t200, 2 folds, Button calls t200, SB raises to t500, 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t800, MP1 folds, Button folds, SB calls t300.

Flop: (t2100) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets t275, SB calls t275.

Turn: (t2650) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets t1000, SB calls t1000.

River: (t4650) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets t1000, SB calls [t307] .

Final Pot: t5650

UTG+1 has Ac Td (ace high).
SB has Qh Qs (one pair, queens).

runout_mick · #2 10-24-2005, 07:49 AM

Nice flop bet...

ononimo · #3 10-24-2005, 07:52 AM

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I can't figure out if QQ or AT played it worse.

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I'll help you ... it wasn't QQ.

betgo · #4 10-24-2005, 07:56 AM

I have seen worse play. UTG+1 was representing aces. If SB didn't have queens, it might have worked.

boondockst · #5 10-24-2005, 07:58 AM

i suppose....just strange the raise amounts are so small...I narrowly avoided stackage when i got QQ on the 2nd hand of this tourney...played a little too soft for aces....who k onws maybe they aren't even paying attention

betgo · #6 10-24-2005, 08:17 AM

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played a little too soft for aces..

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The limp minireraise, followed by the small bet on the flop and larger bet on the turn is exactly the way some people play aces.

boondockst · #7 10-24-2005, 08:21 AM

But are PL MTTs common enough for a $5 participant to recognize this and lay down queens?

Just seems far too sophisticated for the level but maybe I'm wrong.

betgo · #8 10-24-2005, 08:55 AM

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But are PL MTTs common enough for a $5 participant to recognize this and lay down queens?

Just seems far too sophisticated for the level but maybe I'm wrong.

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How would UTG+1 know that SB had queens?

SavageMiser · #9 10-24-2005, 08:56 AM

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t200, MP1 calls t200, 2 folds, Button calls t200, SB raises to t500, 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t800, MP1 folds, Button folds, SB calls t300.

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Am I missing something? Where's the LRR?