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Old 11-30-2005, 09:55 AM
mab_nyc69 mab_nyc69 is offline
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Default Re: Hand vrs CrimeZ

great fold.....i really respect the discipline. please define "the hand is protected" for me. Im still new to this site.
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:15 AM
krishanleong krishanleong is offline
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Default Re: Hand vrs CrimeZ

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Against an unknown, or even a semi-known, datamined TAG, you're calling the raise and being shown a winner the majority of the time.

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This is pretty much incorrect in my opinion. Did you miss the fact that the pot is protected?


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read it again

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I'm an idiot.

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Old 11-30-2005, 10:17 AM
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great fold.....i really respect the discipline. please define "the hand is protected" for me. Im still new to this site.

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Protected pot mean a pot with a third player in. It's much less likely for Villians raise to be a bluff because he has 2 opponents, not 1.

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Old 11-30-2005, 10:40 AM
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the pot is protected

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At what point do you decide to call the raise despite the fact that it is a protected pot? Its not inconceivable to me that AK could get played this way, and certainly there are some players at 10/20 who will checkraise the river on a worse ace or less. Would you make this fold against an unknown? Would you make it against a certifiable assclown?
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:44 AM
mab_nyc69 mab_nyc69 is offline
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Default Re: Hand vrs CrimeZ

thx...that's what i thought. What was the result?
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Old 11-30-2005, 10:50 AM
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thx...that's what i thought. What was the result?

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Crime had AJ.

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Old 11-30-2005, 01:02 PM
TStoneMBD TStoneMBD is offline
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Default Re: Hand vrs CrimeZ

its a good fold. the only hand he could have here that hes making a move with is Ax but that is very unlikely. for one, he probably would have raised earlier in the hand. he also cant expect a river raise with Ax to serve a purpose because he cant expect you to fold a better hand even though you might. BB in the hand has called all 3 streets so its likely he has an ace himself which means that UTG would have to have the only ace left in the deck a large portion of the time and his kicker would have to be unpaired.

summary: his hand range for making a move is very small and unlikely so good fold.
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