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Old 06-10-2005, 02:34 PM
dsm dsm is offline
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Default Long-Zoom Digital Cameras.

Please help me pick a digital camera with at least a 10x optical zoom for pictures of birds and whatnot. $500 for just the camera is about my speed considering all the additional costs: extended warranty, better memory card thingy, a flash, case, rechargeable batteries and charger (I guess you need two sets of batteries), and whatever else those guys down at Sammy's Camera can talk me into buying. One big problem I've encountered is that a lot of these digital cameras don't have a hot shoe*(see photo at bottom) for a flash. A few hours ago I discovered this thing called a slave-flash that you connect to the lens, and this other contraption I wont get into.

Here's a few cameras I've looked at: [two of these cameras get mixed reviews, the canon is too new to get a good review on yet]

Konica Minolta Z5 [5 mega pixels, 12x optical zoom, image stabilization, 2" LCD, Has a Hot Shoe, price about $450]

Canon PowerShot S2 IS
[5 mega pixels, 12x optical zoom, image stabilization, 1.8 extendable LCD, no hot shoe, price about $500]

Panasonic Lumix DMC-FZ5 [5 mega pixels, 12x optical zoom, image stabilization, 1.8 LCD screen, No hot shoe, about $500]

Any other camera/s you can think of would be great, even if it costs a little over the $500 I was planning on.

Thanks, dsm

*The Hot Shoe is on top of a camera for attaching a flash unit.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:01 PM
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Default Re: Long-Zoom Digital Cameras.

Panasonic FZ20. It's the same as the FZ5 but better and it has a hot shoe.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: Long-Zoom Digital Cameras.

i got a konica minolta A200 for $600 bucks. The zoom is 7X, so maybe not exactly what you are looking for. but the camera and CCD are way better than the options you are looking at.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: Long-Zoom Digital Cameras.

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Panasonic FZ20. It's the same as the FZ5 but better and it has a hot shoe.

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Thanks, I'll check it out.
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: Long-Zoom Digital Cameras.

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konica minolta A200 for $600 bucks. The zoom is 7X but the camera and CCD are way better than the options you are looking at

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7x might be okay. I was thinking of getting a Nikon with an 8x optical, but the reviews said the pictures were "Too Noisy" (camera slang I'm learning for meaning "not so clear pictures").

Thanks
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: Long-Zoom Digital Cameras.

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konica minolta A200 for $600 bucks. The zoom is 7X but the camera and CCD are way better than the options you are looking at

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7x might be okay. I was thinking of getting a Nikon with an 8x optical, but the reviews said the pictures were "Too Noisy" (camera slang I'm learning for meaning "not so clear pictures").

Thanks

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Well a camera can be sharp and noisy at the same time. What they mean by noisy is that the camera is not very good at manipulating light in its digital sensor so that pixelization occurs. The focus may still be very sharp but it will be plagued by little spots all over.

This is mostly a problem for cameras in low-light situations when it has to up its ISO in order to be able to absorb enough light and still have a usable shutter speed (1/60 of a second is generally called the low mark for avoiding blur if you're handholding).
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Old 06-10-2005, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: Long-Zoom Digital Cameras.

I've got a Nikon D70 with a 400mm lens... that would probably do it....

Overkill and more than you want to spend, but it's pretty damn cool.

Freakin
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Old 06-10-2005, 04:41 PM
Gallopin Gael Gallopin Gael is offline
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Default Re: Long-Zoom Digital Cameras.

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I've got a Nikon D70 with a 400mm lens... that would probably do it....

Overkill and more than you want to spend, but it's pretty damn cool.

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Which is the film equivilent of having a 600mm lens.

Let's just reflect on how cool that is for a moment.








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Old 06-10-2005, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: Long-Zoom Digital Cameras.

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I've got a Nikon D70 with a 400mm lens... that would probably do it....

Overkill and more than you want to spend, but it's pretty damn cool.

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Which is the film equivilent of having a 600mm lens.

Let's just reflect on how cool that is for a moment.








Digital SLR's rock

Signed,

A proud D100 owner

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Dammit, now I'm jealous of YOUR camera.

Freakin
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Old 06-11-2005, 06:55 AM
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Default Re: Long-Zoom Digital Cameras.

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I've got a Nikon D70 with a 400mm

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I wish you hadn't mentioned this camera you bastard you [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. I checked out sample photos and they're the first ones I've found to be really impressive under a variety of situations. This camera is probably $1200 to $1500 more than I was planning on spending (w/lenses and all the other sh**).
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