Look out, Vince. He's put him to the test! - Page 2

wiggs73 · #11 09-08-2005, 10:18 PM

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With the BS to your immediate left and the fact that any PF raise you make will have to go thru him, are you just going to bleed your blinds down until one of the shortys busts? That could be a long time with the blinds at 50/100.

Just curious. I wouldn't consider playing weak/tight in this position until the BB BS turned aggro and made me think twice about "normal" play at this level.

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No, I never said I was going to fold every hand until we're ITM. I just said I wouldn't try to play that aggressively against the big stack without a monster. KQ isn't quite the hand I'm looking for to make this move.

wiggs73 · #12 09-08-2005, 10:19 PM

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I think if you are forced to play this hand, WITH a raise a two bet will do just as much a a three...so id rather u just doubled it...

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I wouldn't ever double the blind here. I like that less than raising to 300. He's calling with most hands for t300 but he's calling with any hand for t200 and he'd be correct to do so.

yeau2 · #13 09-08-2005, 10:23 PM

I don't understand limping here, because normal, logical big stacks would now raise. If your going to fold to a raise, then save half the blind and fold immediatly, and take the coming hands where you'll be in position. Raise or fold (its a pretty clear raise, IMO).

bones · #14 09-08-2005, 11:49 PM

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overplaying in what sense. . .
as in he'll overbet when he catches any piece?
he'll call bets with any piece postflop?
he'll call preflop raises with a wide range and a big stack?

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Well, here's how he played AK earlier.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter

BB (t1130)
UTG (t880)
UTG+1 (t760)
MP1 (t985)
MP2 (t985)
CO (t860)
Button (t900)
Hero (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 calls t30, MP2 raises to t150, 2 folds, Hero calls t135, BB calls t120, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t120.

Flop: (t630) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets t400, Hero folds, BB calls t400, BB calls t435.

Turn: (t1865) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)

River: (t1865) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)

Final Pot: t1865

Results in white below: 
BB has Ac 8c (one pair, eights).
MP1 has Td 9d (one pair, tens).
MP2 has Ah Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: MP2 wins t1865. 

He played other hands reckelssly and was playing a ton of pots.

As for the flop, my raise was pretty standard here. If I limp, he bets me off of it with any 2 cards.

For the turn, I'm pretty sure a check-raise all in was the play, since I'm sure he doesnt have AK here. My line was in hopes of keeping the pot small, but that was poor thinking against this opponent, since he'd shown no interest all game in keeping pots small.