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Old 11-25-2005, 09:15 PM
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I played in a $80+20 at the Taj today. They filled it up with 250 entries. There were 11 at the table the whole time I was there.

The first bust out at my table was in level 1: top set versus second set in a raised pot with no straights or flushes on the board.

I was the second bust out at the table. With blinds 150/300/50 (original stacks 5000), I pushed with 3200 in 3rd position with AJo. SB called and said it always happens, he is against AA or KK, so I knew I was in trouble. I lost to queens full. The next hand, I pushed for 675 with 44 and lost to AKo.

I literally didn't win a hand in the tournament. Other than a few limped pots in the blinds, all I played was a limp with A9s, where I completely missed the flop in a 4-way pot that someone miniraised; and I was the 3rd caller of an UTG miniraise with 44 and 3 broadway cards flopped. I didn't get hands, and I wasn't playing junk.

In an online tournament, you would have tons of loose fish busting themselves out. Granted I was a little card dead and had a tight table. However, I don't understand why people think the players in a $100 live tournament are at teh level of a $10 online tournament.
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Old 11-25-2005, 09:21 PM
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Variance?

I enjoy online tournaments more most of the time ... but thats just because I find live to be hella boring.
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Old 11-25-2005, 09:39 PM
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Never entered a casino tourney. The charity events i get to play at in Ohio are as donkey filled as a 2 dollar on stars. I am usually able to push AA and KK pre flop and get 1 or even two callers with very mediocre hands where online no one would EVER call this puch with those hands.

Just a question? Did you observe your opponents showdowns or just a lot of folds to continution bets? Sometimes the biggest pair you can have live is the one between your legs ;0

Also, did you at least get the opportunity to start to try to get "reads" on opponents? Just asking as that seemed to be one of your goals going in.
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Old 11-25-2005, 09:52 PM
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I played a few in Vegas this summer. The structure was terrible on all, except the one I played at the horseshoe. I didn't really enjoy it (I enjoyed the cash games alot more and I hate cash games online).

The thing I hated the most is having to deal with bad beats live. I pushed 10-10 from the button after two limpers and the SB(!) called me for 75%(!) of his stack with K9s(!!). a 9 hit the flop and another one on the turn. I wanted to smash my beer bottle on his head. I have alot more sympathy to Hellmuth now [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-25-2005, 10:08 PM
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$80+$20? That sucks.
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Old 11-25-2005, 10:15 PM
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I played an online tourney today... $10 NLHE MTT on Full Tilt. The winner was a guy who went all-in every time he had two suited cards. He did this from the very start. These are the people I constantly see winning online tournaments. That's why I rarely play them anymore.

In the few live tournaments I've played, I usually get busted by someone making the same types of plays. But, for me, in any tournament I play, I often make the mistake of getting all my chips in with the best hand. Nonetheless, the donkey who busts my AA with his 92 (who will usually reraise me all-in preflop.) will usually run into a real player and bust out in live games. So I enjoy live tournaments more because I usually see the best players win them.
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Old 11-25-2005, 10:52 PM
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I won the 340 at the taj last time i played... live tournaments are fun.
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Old 11-25-2005, 11:51 PM
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This is very true; whenever I have a bad beat put on me, I jump out of my seat, give a quick scream (or some other short burst of emotion, usually pretty weird looking), and I'm ok. In a live tourney, it is STINKING hard to maintain your composure sometimes. I'm now trying to be like Raymer and say "Well, you TRIED to give me all your chips."

-Gross
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Old 11-26-2005, 12:05 AM
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This is very true; whenever I have a bad beat put on me, I jump out of my seat, give a quick scream (or some other short burst of emotion, usually pretty weird looking), and I'm ok. In a live tourney, it is STINKING hard to maintain your composure sometimes. I'm now trying to be like Raymer and say "Well, you TRIED to give me all your chips."

-Gross

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I don't get upset by bad beats from fish. I just don't like it when there are no fish to give bad beats.
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Old 11-26-2005, 12:10 AM
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My experience in live poker tournaments in new york card clubs, is that the level of play is atrocious- it was very hard to find real poker players.
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