Yuck. TP2ndK OOP

[crosse91]

i need help playing these sorts of hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) converter

BB ($270.65)
Hero ($179.25)
UTG+1 ($371.65)
MP1 ($319.70)
MP2 ($55)
MP3 ($200)
CO ($200)
Button ($358.70)
SB ($42.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $2.
Hero calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $2, MP3 (poster) checks, CO calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($13) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $10, CO folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($33) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16</font>, MP3 calls $16.

River: ($65) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $27</font>, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: $92


thanks

[amoeba]

I don't see the problem?

in fullring though KQo is a fold for me UTG.I mean you're going to have to hope nobody raises preflop AND in a multiway pot if you hit TPGK, you flopped the best hand while 2 pair has perfect disguise against you and the advantage of position.

[crosse91]

which is why this is so messy/difficult to play.

I think i have a problem against those that check-call flop and turn-they really scare me. Maybe i'm afraid of monsters under the bed?

[amoeba]

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which is why this is so messy/difficult to play.

I think i have a problem against those that check-call flop and turn-they really scare me. Maybe i'm afraid of monsters under the bed?

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nope. they scare me too and you dont know what to do so you go to your default which is blocking bet.

I hate the spot I'm in and the flop isn't too nice granted I do have a straight draw.

Its for these reasons that preflop I think its a fold.

[crosse91]

would you say its a raise or fold situation? I hate just open folding it, however smart it may be.

also yesterday i got out kicked 2times b/c of my poor preflop play (kq vs. qj and ak vs. kq)

[amoeba]

the tigher the table is, the better a raise becomes.

if these guys are folding stuff like AQ, AJ, or A9s, A8s to preflop raise, then the raise becomes better.

if also your continuation bets have been working well, this is a good raise.

however, these table conditions are rarely met so I generally try not to raise here and just open fold.

[djoyce003]

I'd probably bet more on the turn...he either has a monster or he's drawing. If you bet half the pot you are asking him to bluff raise you here by showing weakness. I'd probably do 2/3 on the turn. If he raises a 2/3 bet I think I can assume i'm behind...if he raises this weak ass half pot bet you don't know. I like the river bet

[crosse91]

ok, why is the river bet better than the turn bet. I didn't realize how weak the turn was until after the hand was over-pretty dumb on my part, i usually throw out a 2/3rds there.