Dont slowplay its that simple (LC) - Page 2

jrz1972 · #11 09-14-2005, 02:02 PM

I would have slowplayed the second one.

Small pot, hard for villain to justify a call if I bet, a free card might give him a pay-off hand, my hand is basically unbeatable, etc.

#12 09-14-2005, 02:04 PM

Say the guy to your left is really LAGGY post flop. Then I might just call on the turn if there are callers between the two of you, then go for a c/r on the turn and trap everyone for two bets. Don't know just a though, sometimes if you have the right reads a slowplay here could get you a lot of bets.

mvoss · #13 09-14-2005, 02:11 PM

As I said, I didn't say never to slowplay this provided the right reads. I'm just saying that if the only difference is more callers I don't see the argument for slowplaying. If the table is loose you might as well play your hand as fast as possible. A lot of players, even though piss poor (meaning worse than me) will recognize the slow play and get out of your way.

GrunchCan · #14 09-14-2005, 03:14 PM

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sometimes slowplay, and it's not that simple

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I agree. There is no 'never' in poker.

CaptainCrunch · #15 09-14-2005, 04:23 PM

I post this specific hand because it was the 4th one in about an hour and a half with a Trip flop. In the previous ones, I saw how these guys react to that situation. Fold to any bet on the flop, then agression on turn and river if they have a PP, or pair up or even an Ace. I couldn't see any other way of extracting chips so....
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks.

Turn: (2 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG raises, MP folds, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG calls, SB calls.

River: (11 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 14 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Tc 8s (four of a kind, tens).
UTG has 5h Jh (full house, tens full of jacks).
SB has 9d Kh (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins 14 BB.

GrunchCan · #16 09-14-2005, 04:27 PM

I'm OK with this based on your estimation of the table, but I think it's close. You aren't afraid of any free cards, which is +slowplay. The pot is small, which is +slowplay. But there are 3 opponents which is slightly -slowplay. It would be best if the pot were HU.

In this case, I'm fine with the slowplay. I especially like how you stepped on the gas on the turn when you saw action. Good reaction. Waiting for the river would have been less +EV then reacting on the turn like you did.