How's your memory, son??

jba · #1 03-17-2005, 08:56 PM

Same villain, I swear to heaven this was four hands apart.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (3 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, Button calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, Button calls.

River: (5 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

After the river raise I figure I must be up against a bigger flush, as I think most taking hero's betting pattern on this board has about 0% chance of folding to that raise, but villain shows KQo no spades.

I repeat, this is four hands later:

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, Button raises, Hero calls, UTG folds.

River: (8.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button folds.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

Entity · #2 03-17-2005, 08:57 PM

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Same villain, I swear to heaven this was four hands apart.

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (3 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (3 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, Button calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, Button calls.

River: (5 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

After the river raise I figure I must be up against a bigger flush, as I think most taking hero's betting pattern on this board has about 0% chance of folding to that raise, but villain shows KQo no spades.

I repeat, this is four hands later:

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, Button calls, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: (3.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG calls, Button raises, Hero calls, UTG folds.

River: (8.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button folds.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

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Unless you think he'll fold a hand that's chopping with you, I'm more likely to check the river in hand #2. I want him to bluff.

Rob

jba · #3 03-17-2005, 09:00 PM

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Unless you think he'll fold a hand that's chopping with you, I'm more likely to check the river in hand #2. I want him to bluff.

Rob

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this is obvious to me now. thanks.

bozlax · #4 03-17-2005, 09:09 PM

Fundamental question: at what point does it become -EV just to be playing ring games short-handed? I usually bail out once it's 5-handed, and I figger it's gotta be difficult with the rake hitting you so frequently to make money playing 3- or 4-handed.

Entity · #5 03-17-2005, 09:11 PM

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Fundamental question: at what point does it become -EV just to be playing ring games short-handed? I usually bail out once it's 5-handed, and I figger it's gotta be difficult with the rake hitting you so frequently to make money playing 3- or 4-handed.

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It becomes -EV when you're no longer at a significant advantage over your opponents. I play 3-6 handed frequently, as I actually feel I can maximize my EV that way.

Rob

toss · #6 03-17-2005, 09:14 PM

Depends on how well you play shorthanded?

jba · #7 03-17-2005, 09:19 PM

I've thought about that too, I'm not sure. depends on the table for me, I felt I could easily outplay these three so I stayed (table avgs around 70/5). I'd rather have it shorthanded than share these three with five TAGs.

That said, it's certainly a large factor in table selection.

I'm pretty sure this is just selective memory, but it seems like at party you'll sometimes be sitting at a short handed table like this, then the table fills all at once. I find the quality of the players that drop all of a sudden to be really quite superb. No idea if this is true. It may be that tough players are more likely to choose a specific table rather than get on a waiting list? (sudden fill-up indicates software assigned tables from waiting list, I think)