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Old 08-20-2005, 12:26 AM
iluzion iluzion is offline
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Default Lay this down?

I'm a limit player attempting to learn a little about NL ring games. Should I have dropped this on the river?

No reads, haven't been here long.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

MP1 ($92.43)
MP2 ($24.75)
MP3 ($25)
CO ($21.40)
Button ($24.40)
SB ($10.65)
BB ($5)
Hero ($20.85)
UTG+1 ($7.25)
UTG+2 ($46.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP3 posts a blind of $0.25. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
Hero calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 (poster) checks, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(8 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls $2, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($6) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $7</font>, Hero calls $3.50.

River: ($20) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5.

Final Pot: $30
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Old 08-20-2005, 12:28 AM
JaBlue JaBlue is offline
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Default Re: Lay this down?

I would fold preflop but otherwise play the hand the same
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Old 08-20-2005, 12:29 AM
yvesaint yvesaint is offline
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Default Re: Lay this down?

To be honest, I probably drop it on the turn.
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Old 08-20-2005, 01:02 AM
stu-unger stu-unger is offline
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Default Re: Lay this down?

first off limping KQo is not +EV IMO. i either fold preflop of open the pot. i like leading for pot, and i like your turn bet. once u r raised u need to make your decision. u cant call this min-raise and then fold getting 5-1 on the river. i like folding to the turn without a read. if i dont fold the turn i cant see why i would fold the river getting 5-1.
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Old 08-20-2005, 01:27 AM
Reef Reef is offline
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Default Re: Lay this down?

I fold KQo utg in general

Turn bet was 'ok'. I might bet $5 to get out the flush draws. as it was played, I call the min raise.

Def. check and decide to call river. His river bet was weak (or really milky), but I still think you take down the pot.
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Old 08-20-2005, 02:48 AM
Spaded Spaded is offline
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Default Re: Lay this down?

Try to see it from your opponent's point of view:

You did not show any weakness until the turn call. I want to make a small river bet so that a marginal hand will have to pay me off.

That's a basic concept in NL. Bet how much your opponent is willing to lose when you know you've got them beat.

Is your opponent sophisticated enough to make this basic play, or did he show weakness and is dying for you to bluff with your monster pair of queens? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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