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Old 08-19-2005, 12:38 AM
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Im thinking of buying books on poker to improve my game, i only play texas hold em no limit(with 20 $ buy-in). I got a fairly solid game, at tables (8+ players) im always second or first, sometimes third (but mostly second) . I usually knock out 2 or 3 other players by myself. So what books would help improve the kind of game i play. I think the area i require more help is heads up (+ short stacked). Books on tells would help too i suppose, but i think i got a natural feel with people in general. I heard super system 1 / 2 has some decent sections on tells/mindset and no limit holdem, is this true and are they worth buying both? Please no acronyms for the books...

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Old 08-19-2005, 08:26 AM
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if you always finish 1st-3rd, I think you should be writing the books. Haven't heard of anyone ever doing this.
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Old 08-19-2005, 09:32 AM
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I assume your talking tourneys, so get Harrington on Hold'em I&II. Tournament poker for advanced players is good too.
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Old 08-19-2005, 10:41 AM
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Im thinking of buying books on poker to improve my game, i only play texas hold em no limit(with 20 $ buy-in). I got a fairly solid game, at tables (8+ players) im always second or first, sometimes third (but mostly second) . I usually knock out 2 or 3 other players by myself. So what books would help improve the kind of game i play. I think the area i require more help is heads up (+ short stacked). Books on tells would help too i suppose, but i think i got a natural feel with people in general. I heard super system 1 / 2 has some decent sections on tells/mindset and no limit holdem, is this true and are they worth buying both? Please no acronyms for the books...

Thx for your time.

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Always 2nd or 1st, and sometimes 3rd? Either your 1.Talking about a small sample, or 2. Your the best sitngo player alive, or 3. Your full of bat guano (I suspect one or three)[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I second the other poster - Harrington on Hold em Vo1. 1 and 11. Probably at least half of his problem sets are sitngo decisions. Also there is an extensive amount of information (in fact a whole forum) available here.

Frank
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Old 08-19-2005, 10:54 AM
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There's a great hold'em book by Ken Warren that might just help you. You should check it out.
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:37 PM
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if you always finish 1st-3rd, I think you should be writing the books. Haven't heard of anyone ever doing this.

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what is the point in a comment like this? the poster's point in saying he always finished in the top three was simply to make the point that he's not a total newbie at tourneys.

that said, i agree with orange's recommendation of harrington's books. i wouldn't discount, however, the usefulness of the books out there which are not specifically for tournament play... and would probably suggest reading them before diving into sklansky's tournament HE for advanced players. also, some of the "beginners" books are worthwhile reading even if you think you are ready for the advanced books, although sometimes you'll get bored reading the first few pages as they often simply describe the structure and rules.

i have only super/system 1 but have heard that it is very similar to SS2 so i would probably not buy both.
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Old 08-19-2005, 02:45 PM
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if you always finish 1st-3rd, I think you should be writing the books. Haven't heard of anyone ever doing this.

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what is the point in a comment like this? the poster's point in saying he always finished in the top three was simply to make the point that he's not a total newbie at tourneys.

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The point is that the original post is, at the very least, extremely difficult to understand. If it says what it appears to say, then it is extremely difficult to believe.

He appears to be saying that he is playing $20 SnGs (again, this is not clear), and that he virtually always finishes in the money. If this is what he is saying, then he is either basing this on an extremely small and meaningless sample size, or he is trolling (a polite word for BS).

His post could also be taken to refer to NL ring games. If so, the comments about always finishing in the top 3 are not meaningful, and we still don't know what he is talking about.

Giving the OP the benefit of the doubt, the post is too vague and confusing for a meaningful response.
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Old 08-19-2005, 03:05 PM
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what is the point in a comment like this? the poster's point in saying he always finished in the top three was simply to make the point that he's not a total newbie at tourneys.


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by making that point, he is saying he is a total newbie at tourneys.
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Old 08-19-2005, 05:57 PM
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Aright maybe that didnt come out right, lol, i apologize for this. What i ment is that i play at different places all over my city, places were we have two or three tables (20-30 players MAX). So NO i dont finish 1, 2 or 3 with 800 people invovled, i finish 1st, 2nd or 3rd, were theres 20-30 people.

That said, im looking for titles that will help improve my heads up play. And since i always seem to come short stacked, books on the later would help too.. General books on improving my no limit game would be great too (and help me get to the top3 not short stacked??). I heard super system is the bible, should i buy it? And also, what books improved YOUR style of poker?

Thx again for your time everyone.
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Old 08-19-2005, 09:20 PM
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At the risk of being a nit, which really doesn't bother me a bit, you still have not told us anything about you, how you play, or what kind of games you play in.

I am writing this as much as a guide to other newbies as to try to get useful info out of the OP.

Info to be included in asking a question like this, assuming that there is a question in there somewhere, include:

1. Where do you play: online, big casino, little casino, underground, home games, etc.?

2. How good or bad are the other players?

3. Are you playing limit or NL, HE or other games?

4. Are you playing MTTs, STTs, ring games, or what? What is the structure, the buy in, and the pay out?

5. How long have you been playing, at what levels, and with what degree of winning or losing?

6. Do you have any online playing experience? How much at what levels? And with what success?

7. How large is the sample size you are reporting on?

8. What books have you already read?

Note to all: without this kind of info, no one can do a credible job of recommending specific books. For even better results, ask yourself all of the above questions, and then start reading back through the posts here and find which books seem to best fit your needs. Then ask your questions here to fine tune your research.
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