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Old 12-19-2005, 01:13 PM
Michael Emery Michael Emery is offline
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Default 20/40 Getting aggressive

I know a lot of you wont like this hand right off the bat because you're weak-tight. You only like to play the nuts, and thats cool. I like playing split aces and rolled on third as well. Some of you like beermoney even like to play with other guys nuts, and thats....uhhhh.....kinda sick. But lets try to take our skirts off for a minute here before you guys let me have it and label me as a LAG this hand. Villain just joined the table a few orbits ago and isnt anyone I've ever played with or seen in this game.

7 Card Stud High ($20/$40), Ante $2, Bring-In $5 (converter)

3rd Street - (0.40 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in

4th Street - (0.90 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises

5th Street - (2.45 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___raises
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:33 PM
BeerMoney BeerMoney is offline
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Default Re: 20/40 Getting aggressive

fold third. I know you're the bring in, but this hand is just going to get you in trouble, especially with the way you play the later streets, as evidenced by your fourth and fifth street play. In this tight ante structure, I won't make it past fourth unless I have quads. You have to learn how to adapt to the structure of the game.

Beer [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

PS, I'm glad you were able to witness a classic hit and run.
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Old 12-19-2005, 10:28 PM
benwood benwood is offline
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Default Re: 20/40 Getting aggressive

3rd:You're a LAG.

4th:Nope.You're a maniac.

(Since I don't know you I guess I should let you know that I'm just kidding.)
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Old 12-19-2005, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: 20/40 Getting aggressive

I dunno man… and there’s no way you can know either. I mean, you don’t know him so you can’t put him on a range. The limp does seem fishy though, so I suppose it’s okay.
Personally, I’d rather wait till I have a read before I get involved with so little money in the pot.
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:15 PM
Michael Emery Michael Emery is offline
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Default Re: 20/40 Getting aggressive

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Personally, I’d rather wait till I have a read before I get involved with so little money in the pot.



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I know what you're saying man, but thats just my point. I see so many players here always wanting to wait for a better read or a better spot. Isnt it all relative though? I mean, If I am right here and I'm putting money in with the best hand, then it dosent really matter whats in the pot. I actually think my desire to get into risky situations that most would want to "wait for a better spot" is what makes me more money than players that play tighter. Stud is a game of pushing small percentages. It not only supplies me with a better image helping my good hands get paid off and appearing to be an action player. But I think I now have played enough stud through the years to handle situations where I've put myself in jeopardy very well. This not only goes for plays like this, but playing additional hands on third as well, using my superior skills to "catch up" on the later rounds. Like the gospel (7csfap's) says "if you can find a few extra hands per session and average a few bucks on each...". I think several players (Roland you're especially one of the ones I have in mind) could play more hands and show a much larger profit than they do now. Perhaps this is one of those hands.

Mike Emery
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Old 12-19-2005, 02:36 PM
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With all due respect, what's the point here? You started off your post by defending what you knew the response would be. You know it's -EV, at least by the book. If you feel like for you it's +EV because you get a "better image" or you know how to "handle situations where I've put myself in jeopardy" then go for it.

If you're going to play this way, then go for it. But again, why are you posting this hand? And when you get the inevitable response, why are you so defensive?
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Old 12-19-2005, 03:23 PM
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With all due respect, what's the point here? You started off your post by defending what you knew the response would be. You know it's -EV, at least by the book. If you feel like for you it's +EV because you get a "better image" or you know how to "handle situations where I've put myself in jeopardy" then go for it.

If you're going to play this way, then go for it. But again, why are you posting this hand? And when you get the inevitable response, why are you so defensive?

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Old 12-19-2005, 03:25 PM
BeerMoney BeerMoney is offline
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You know it's -EV, at least by the book.

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I don't think he's saying that at all.. I think he's saying he thinks his 5's are slightly ahead, and he's not afraid to push that edge. If his opponent folds somewhere along the line that's great.
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Old 12-20-2005, 03:47 AM
Michael Emery Michael Emery is offline
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Default Re: 20/40 Getting aggressive

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With all due respect, what's the point here? You started off your post by defending what you knew the response would be. You know it's -EV, at least by the book. If you feel like for you it's +EV because you get a "better image" or you know how to "handle situations where I've put myself in jeopardy" then go for it.

If you're going to play this way, then go for it. But again, why are you posting this hand? And when you get the inevitable response, why are you so defensive?



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The point of this hand was to generate discussion. I dont generally post hands that are strait forward and mundane. No one, including myself, learns from them. You really need to take a chill pill, man. The opening of my post was simply poking fun at a few players I know and have posted with on this forum for along time. They all typically play tighter than me and I was only joking around with this fact, not being defensive of the play I made. And whats to say this is -EV by the book? Where in the text do you see a hand example like the one I posted? I think you should have more posts than 83, and even more credentials on top of that if you wish to question a hand that I post. To better players I think this hand is very interesting and definitely worth me posting.

Mike Emery
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Old 12-22-2005, 08:14 AM
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Default Re: 20/40 Getting aggressive

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I think you should have more posts than 83, and even more credentials on top of that if you wish to question a hand that I post.

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Wow, that's an incredible ego you've got there, even for a poker player.

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