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Old 12-10-2005, 07:43 AM
FlopComesBricks FlopComesBricks is offline
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Default Unethical to take advantage of a happy drunk?

100+5 1 table tourney at the local club. Half the players are regulars the rest are unknowns. Payout is 60-25-15.

Anyway, I make it down to 3 players on the short stack. The chip leader is the happy drunk in question. I've played with him once before and he's an overall good natured guy but a poor player. Also completed wasted at this point.

When it gets down to 3 handed, he says to the other guy who he's kinda buddies with, "Once we bust this guy we'll chop and go hit the bars and snag some poooosy." I wasn't worried about collusion because these guys weren't softplaying each other at all.

So, I end up doubling-through the second player and then in about two hands he busts out when his all-in blind steal is called by the drunk.

At heads-up I've got about T4000 and the drunk has T16000 with blinds at 300-600. He's very aggressive player so I know he's gunna put me all-in every hand. I say to him casually, "So, we gunna chop 50/50 and get some pussy?" He thinks for about 2 seconds, shrugs and says, "Sure. Deal. Lets chop it up."

After that the drunk gets his money then dissapears. I hang around for the after tourney ring-game and get chastised by the other regulars for taking advantage of him. "How could I do that?" etc. Obviously it was not to my advantage to continue playing and he seemed more than happy to just chop, pocket his $430 and hit the nightclubs.

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Old 12-10-2005, 07:47 AM
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Default Re: Unethical to take advantage of a happy drunk?

Tell the people ragging on you to STFU, they woulda taken the same deal without the blink of an eye. The drunk guy agreed and you agreed, that's all there was to it. It wasn't you that got him drunk, if it was that MIGHT be a bit unethical, but otherwise, [censored] it.
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Old 12-10-2005, 07:48 AM
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Default Re: Unethical to take advantage of a happy drunk?

Without readying your post: No, it is not, no matter what the circumstances.
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Old 12-10-2005, 08:31 AM
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Default Re: Unethical to take advantage of a happy drunk?

yea forget the regulars, no one made him get drunk
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Old 12-10-2005, 11:26 AM
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Default Re: Unethical to take advantage of a happy drunk?

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Without readying your post: No, it is not, no matter what the circumstances.

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Exactly. Plus, might have done drunk the favor. His attnention span is shot and anxious to go drunk around some more or starts to come off high, your playing advantage could have ended up much more than his chip advantage. I call this chop a win/win.
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Old 12-10-2005, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: Unethical to take advantage of a happy drunk?

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Without readying your post: No, it is not, no matter what the circumstances.

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Exactly. Plus, might have done drunk the favor. His attnention span is shot and anxious to go drunk around some more or starts to come off high, your playing advantage could have ended up much more than his chip advantage. I call this chop a win/win.

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I agree. And screw those other hypocrites. It's not like you need them as friends right?
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Old 12-10-2005, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: Unethical to take advantage of a happy drunk?

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Without readying your post: No, it is not, no matter what the circumstances.

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There are lots of ways of taking advantage that would be unethical. (Stealing his chips when he's not looking comes to mind.)
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Old 12-10-2005, 04:03 PM
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Default Re: Unethical to take advantage of a happy drunk?

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Without readying your post: No, it is not, no matter what the circumstances.

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There are lots of ways of taking advantage that would be unethical. (Stealing his chips when he's not looking comes to mind.)

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I would view stealing as an illegal action, not a circumstance. Other circumstance might be cash game and he is literally showing his cards. Not turning your head away or telling him to protect his hand, that is a different circumstance where advantage is still being taken. If he is raising with an Obvious looser cause he is drunk then reraising him is taking advantage. Is that unethical....please. If it is, I'm going to hell.
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Old 12-10-2005, 10:22 PM
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Default Re: Unethical to take advantage of a happy drunk?

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Without readying your post: No, it is not, no matter what the circumstances.

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There are lots of ways of taking advantage that would be unethical. (Stealing his chips when he's not looking comes to mind.)

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I wouldn't view that as unethical at all. It's illegal and stupid and I wouldn't do it, but not because of ethics.
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Old 12-12-2005, 12:05 PM
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Yep yep.

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