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Old 11-15-2005, 05:28 PM
Tyler Durden Tyler Durden is offline
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Default Hiring day laborers

Two weeks ago my house needed some yard work done. So my roommates and I did it but then didn't want to do the cleanup. We live in Arlington, VA where there is a heavy Hispanic/Latino population. So we drove to a nearby place where a lot of these men hang out waiting for day jobs. We got there and two guys sitting on the curb noticed what we were trying to do so we got out and talked to them. All the others swarmed our car within 15 seconds and we had like 15 of these guys talking fast and tugging on our arms all trying to get hired for the work. Luckily my roommate speaks fluent Spanish b/c his parents are Peruvian. Anyway we got two guys for one hour for a total of $40.

Then we went outside to take them back and they said they worked for more than an hour and wanted more money. So we gave them $50. They might have been ripping us off but it's alright b/c they're dirt poor and we were going to tip them anyway and situations like this really make you realize how much you have and what other ppl live like.

As an aside, what do ppl think about the ethical/moral repurcussions of what we did? I mean hiring illegal immigrants. Were we just exacerbating the problem?

Now whenever we have an issue in the house like "what's with all the dishes in the sink?" someone answers with "none of us want to clean all that, let's get some day workers." just as a joke. we all find it funny. well i do.
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Old 11-15-2005, 05:30 PM
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standard.

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As an aside, what do ppl think about the ethical/moral repurcussions of what we did?


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you had work to do plus some money, they wanted work and money. What could possibly be immoral/unethical? [censored] the Man.
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Old 11-15-2005, 05:32 PM
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Old 11-15-2005, 05:34 PM
beset7 beset7 is offline
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You paid them a reasonable hourly rate so its all good.

You were violating the Immigration Reform and Control Act by hiring them but its the most enforced useless federal statutory scheme ever, and that's saying a lot.
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Old 11-15-2005, 05:38 PM
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it is not like you shot paintballs at them from the roof while they worked. no ethical hangups for me.

maybe they could be hired to do crimson challenges in the future.
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Old 11-15-2005, 05:40 PM
Tyler Durden Tyler Durden is offline
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it is not like you shot paintballs at them from the roof while they worked.

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yea you're right. damn maybe next time.
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:26 PM
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maybe they could be hired to do crimson challenges in the future.

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This could get interesting.

Another thing to remember with day laborers, they aren't going to have health insurance, so you are assuming some risks with injury as well. A few years back I was working as a landscaper for the summe rand we'd always talk with the other crews at the gas station in the morning. One morning one of the other guys was obviously distracted, turns out one of his (illegal) day laborers dropped the gate of the truck down and ripped off a couple fingers. The guy who hired him had to just drop him at the hospital and hope he would be able to get cared for. Too much liability if he actually waited around to make sure the guy was ok. I stopped working at that job before I ever heard anything else about it.
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Old 11-15-2005, 05:57 PM
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You ended up paying these guys $25 each for 1 hour of work?

Terrible business decision.

The point of getting day-laborers is to get cheap labor. Hell, you could have gotten American-born college students to do this work for $25 an hour. It just all seems rather pointless.
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Old 11-15-2005, 06:31 PM
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You ended up paying these guys $25 each for 1 hour of work?

Terrible business decision.

The point of getting day-laborers is to get cheap labor. Hell, you could have gotten American-born college students to do this work for $25 an hour. It just all seems rather pointless.

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9 out of 10 American-born college kids will do a crappy job.
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Old 11-15-2005, 06:27 PM
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I'd have paid them less.
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