WSOP Day 4: "Official" News, Results, and Discussion

[Delphin]

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chances are still against him to make the final table, to say it would be a huge shock for him not to make it is absurd

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Got any ICM numbers to back that up?

[Solitare]

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chances are still against him to make the final table, to say it would be a huge shock for him not to make it is absurd

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Got any ICM numbers to back that up?

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Look for my post up a bit.

My rough ICM calc give Raymer a 3% chance to with and a 25% chance to make the final table.

[Howard Treesong]

Raymer is in a great position: he has 1.0M of the 2.6M of the chips at his table. I'm sure Greg is very aware of the appropriate strategy in this spot, but he has a sufficient chip lead at his table to force at least three of his opponents (Vannata, 84K; Pacheco, 126K; and Kaikko, 122K) to risk every chip they have every time the put one in the pot without undue risk to himself.

I don't know any of the players at Greg's table. If they're rocks hoping to move up the ladder, I'd anticipate that Greg will rob them all blind.

[-Skeme-]

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It will be a huge shock if he doesn't make the final table with where he stands now.

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Haha wtf not even close.

[TylerD]

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It will be a huge shock if he does make the final table with where he stands now.

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FYP.

Greg's a great player, but making the final table in a world class field with 185 players left would be an outstanding acheivement and a big shock.

[Laomedon]

I agree it would be quite an accomplishment, however say you were in his shoes as the chip leader with 185 left, wouldn't you be mightily upset with yourself if you didn't at least get within striking distance of the final table?

[idrinkcoors]

According to my math based on Cardplayer stats, the average stack at the final table, (9 handed), will be 6.243 million. Fossilman at just over 1 million still has alot of players to work through to get a spot there. Doubling up 3 times will do it, but only one other player has over a million at this point.

[TylerD]

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I agree it would be quite an accomplishment, however say you were in his shoes as the chip leader with 185 left, wouldn't you be mightily upset with yourself if you didn't at least get within striking distance of the final table?

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I might be upset, but I wouldn't expect to make it.

[BlackAces]

I imagine 144 will be the feature table to start the day -- Ivey, Juanda, Bonyadi and CK Hua are all there.

ABESAMIS ANTONIO T. Table 121 Seat 9
ALAEI DANIEL Table 143 Seat 7
ALSANCAK AYHAN R. Table 132 Seat 4
AWAD HANI Table 121 Seat 2
BANKS GLYN W. Table 125 Seat 1
BARCH JOHN D. Table 136 Seat 3
BARTHOLOMEW SHANE Table 120 Seat 5
BEEVERS JOSEPH C. Table 143 Seat 4
BERGSDORF DANIEL Table 126 Seat 8
BERRY JOE Table 134 Seat 3
BILNEY SARAH L. Table 122 Seat 6
BLACK ANDREW F. Table 143 Seat 6
BLANTON SEAN Table 145 Seat 9
BONYADI FARZAD Table 144 Seat 6
BOYD RUSSELL AARON Table 129 Seat 9
BROOKS RANDAL H. Table 136 Seat 6
BROSIUS ADAM S. Table 126 Seat 7
BROWN JOHN R. Table 120 Seat 9
BRYAN MARK Table 145 Seat 8
BURT TERRENCE R. Table 129 Seat 4
BUTAN RADU Table 126 Seat 5
BUTT JAMES Table 125 Seat 6
CALDWELL FRANKLIN D. Table 122 Seat 2
CALVO LUIS Table 123 Seat 4
CANTOR CLIFFORD Table 134 Seat 9
CAPENER MICHAEL L. Table 142 Seat 3
CASSAVETTES NICHOLAS Table 118 Seat 7
CEDERCRANTZ MARTIN HANS Table 126 Seat 1
CHIOSIE JOSEPH Table 143 Seat 2
CHRISTENSEN CASPER R. Table 128 Seat 6
CLARK THOMAS Table 118 Seat 9
COLE MARK Table 126 Seat 9
CONNOR JOSEPH R. Table 127 Seat 7
CRIBB MICHAEL A. Table 142 Seat 1
DANNENMANN STEVEN P. Table 134 Seat 6
DARDEN PAUL Table 145 Seat 4
DAULAT SEAN Table 127 Seat 9
DEETZ STEPHEN Table 143 Seat 5
DEL GROSSO MARCELLO Table 136 Seat 9
DICKSON GEORGE Table 119 Seat 4
DIETRICH ALEXANDER H. Table 122 Seat 7
DIX DEREK Table 138 Seat 8
DOLLISON KUM NAN Table 138 Seat 4
DROTLEFF THOMAS Table 123 Seat 5
DROZDOWSKI CHRIS G. Table 123 Seat 7
EIDELMAN DMITRITY Table 123 Seat 2
FISHER PAUL Table 134 Seat 5
FITZGERALD MATT Table 129 Seat 8
FITZPATRICK 2 MATTHEW M. Table 124 Seat 7
FLISBERG NIKLAS E Table 121 Seat 1
FORRESTER MARK Table 134 Seat 1
FRIEDMAN ADAM Table 128 Seat 8
GEHRING DOUGLAS FREDERICK Table 131 Seat 5
GEIGER JEFFREY Table 118 Seat 2
GIBSON NICK Table 125 Seat 4
GRACE JOHN Table 131 Seat 4
GRAVES MARK Table 122 Seat 5
HACHEM JOSEPH Table 132 Seat 8
HAMILTON JR. RUSSELL W. Table 131 Seat 1
HAYDEN PATRICK Table 125 Seat 5
HEDLUND PETER M. Table 145 Seat 2
HERNANDEZ FRANK L. Table 131 Seat 6
HILDEBRAND PER Table 122 Seat 8
HILL ANTHONY Table 124 Seat 5
HIRSCH YAKOV Table 121 Seat 5
HOELLEIN JON C. Table 136 Seat 4
HOTCHANDANI BOB Table 132 Seat 9
HOWARD JOHNNY L. Table 123 Seat 6
HUA CAN KIM Table 144 Seat 7
HUBER GEORGE THOMAS Table 145 Seat 5
ISREALASHVILI ROLAND Table 127 Seat 6
IVEY PHIL Table 144 Seat 4
JAMES KENNA S. Table 142 Seat 8
JOERGENSEN JARL Table 122 Seat 3
JUANDA JOHNSON Table 144 Seat 5
KAIKKO KEVIN Table 119 Seat 5
KALMAR JONATHAN Table 125 Seat 2
KANG WEBBER L. Table 121 Seat 6
KANTER AARON P. Table 120 Seat 8
KAPLAN JASON D. Table 132 Seat 1
KESSLER MICHAEL D Table 129 Seat 2
KIM KEVIN H. Table 124 Seat 1
KING BRYANT S. Table 138 Seat 1
KIRSCH RICHARD Table 129 Seat 5
KLEIN MITCHELL Table 125 Seat 3
KONDRACKI BRADLEY Table 129 Seat 6
KORAL THOMAS Table 142 Seat 7
LA HUNG V. Table 131 Seat 8
LANE JON Table 128 Seat 7
LAPWOOD RICHARD Table 132 Seat 2
LARSEN ROBERT Table 131 Seat 7
LAUGHING JR. ANTHONY Table 126 Seat 2
LAW BOBBY W. Table 144 Seat 3
LAZAR SCOTT A. Table 126 Seat 3
LEAHY MICHAEL Table 118 Seat 4
LEDERER HOWARD Table 122 Seat 4
LEE BERNARD Table 132 Seat 6
LEIBMAN JOE Table 125 Seat 9
LESTER JASON N. Table 134 Seat 2
LINDENBERG BJORN B. Table 127 Seat 5
LOPEZ KARLO Table 144 Seat 8
LOUIS LO Table 122 Seat 9
MADDEN PATRICK W. Table 127 Seat 2
MANNETTA PAUL Table 126 Seat 6
MARX STEVEN Table 136 Seat 2
MATUSOW MICHAEL Table 143 Seat 1
MAY MICHAEL Table 132 Seat 3
MCCARTHY KEVIN N. Table 132 Seat 7
MCLAUGHLIN JOHN Table 138 Seat 3
MENECHELLA CARMEN Table 142 Seat 2
MINAYA MANELIC Table 138 Seat 6
MINH LY T. Table 145 Seat 6
MINTER JAKE I Table 120 Seat 7
MOLLOY MICHAEL Table 145 Seat 1
MORALES ALEX Table 129 Seat 3
MYERS TERRY D. Table 138 Seat 9
NELSON KRYSTAL Table 118 Seat 3
NUMOTO SCOTT CHITOSHI Table 122 Seat 1
OBRIEN FRANCIS W. Table 134 Seat 4
OBRIEN KEVIN P Table 132 Seat 5
OLSON JAMES Table 128 Seat 2
PACHECO ALEJANDRO Table 119 Seat 3
PAPPAS JOHN Table 127 Seat 1
PARDEY RODNEY Table 142 Seat 5
PELLEGRINI EDWARD V. Table 120 Seat 1
PERRY RAFAEL L. Table 125 Seat 8
PHAN TIM Table 138 Seat 7
PHAPHONE KIT Table 124 Seat 8
PIRONE ANTHONY R. Table 145 Seat 3
PLASTIK DAVID Table 131 Seat 3
PNIAK TOM Table 127 Seat 3
PODLEWSKI CHRIS Table 129 Seat 1
POLLACK JAMES L. Table 125 Seat 7
PRAESTTUN KJETIL Table 143 Seat 8
PRAGER JOSH Table 120 Seat 2
PRUGH LARRY A. Table 123 Seat 9
RAYMER GREGORY Table 119 Seat 9
RAZI BABAK Table 142 Seat 9
RICE GREGORY B. Table 143 Seat 9
RICHARDSON DAVID Table 145 Seat 7
RICHARDSON ERICK Table 138 Seat 2
RODRIGUEZ JOSE M. Table 124 Seat 3
ROUPE THOMAS A. Table 118 Seat 1
SALTNES ESPEN Table 134 Seat 7
SALZER RUSSELL Table 127 Seat 8
SAMOUNA IMAD Table 121 Seat 7
SANDER AMIT Table 127 Seat 4
SARTORI THOMAS A. Table 128 Seat 3
SAVELKOUL DENNIS Table 136 Seat 5
SHABOT YOM TOV Table 124 Seat 2
SHAK DANIEL L. Table 119 Seat 8
SHAKHTOOR SAMIR LM Table 119 Seat 7
SHANEBERGER TOM Table 136 Seat 8
SHEIKHAN SHAHRAM Table 118 Seat 6
SHLEZ VADIM Table 123 Seat 3
SHORT CHRISTOPHER T. Table 120 Seat 4
SILOW OSKAR P. Table 124 Seat 4
SIMMONS JR JOSEPH F. Table 126 Seat 4
SINGER ALAN Table 144 Seat 1
STEIRMAN DAVID J. Table 136 Seat 1
STELLWAGEN BRYAN Table 118 Seat 5
STILLMAN JOSEPH Table 120 Seat 6
TATE CONOR C. Table 123 Seat 8
TENNEFOS DARRYL S. Table 131 Seat 2
TENNER MARK Table 142 Seat 6
THORN RAYMI Table 131 Seat 9
TOTH JOSEPH J Table 138 Seat 5
TRAN JUSTIN Table 123 Seat 1
TURNER ROBERT Table 142 Seat 4
VANNATA JOSEPH Table 119 Seat 1
VICARY PAUL Table 120 Seat 3
VU TUAN ANH Table 121 Seat 8
WALLS GABE Table 124 Seat 9
WANG BING Table 144 Seat 2
WARD ERNEST J. Table 118 Seat 8
WARE RON R. Table 128 Seat 4
WATANABE GEN Table 119 Seat 2
WATKINSON LEE H. Table 136 Seat 7
WATTEL MICHAEL J. Table 134 Seat 8
WIESNER BRETT Table 128 Seat 9
WILLIAMSON TIFFANY Table 129 Seat 7
WOOLF DUSTIN Table 143 Seat 3
WRIGHT KEVIN Table 128 Seat 5
YOUSEFZADEH MEHRDAD Table 121 Seat 3
ZOUDO KHALID M. Table 124 Seat 6

[memphis57]

Thanks for the list blackaces, here it is resorted in case anybody else wants to browse over who's sitting together.

Table 118 Seat 1 ROUPE THOMAS A.
Table 118 Seat 2 GEIGER JEFFREY
Table 118 Seat 3 NELSON KRYSTAL
Table 118 Seat 4 LEAHY MICHAEL
Table 118 Seat 5 STELLWAGEN BRYAN
Table 118 Seat 6 SHEIKHAN SHAHRAM
Table 118 Seat 7 CASSAVETTES NICHOLAS
Table 118 Seat 8 WARD ERNEST J.
Table 118 Seat 9 CLARK THOMAS
Table 119 Seat 1 VANNATA JOSEPH
Table 119 Seat 2 WATANABE GEN
Table 119 Seat 3 PACHECO ALEJANDRO
Table 119 Seat 4 DICKSON GEORGE
Table 119 Seat 5 KAIKKO KEVIN
Table 119 Seat 7 SHAKHTOOR SAMIR LM
Table 119 Seat 8 SHAK DANIEL L.
Table 119 Seat 9 RAYMER GREGORY
Table 120 Seat 1 PELLEGRINI EDWARD V.
Table 120 Seat 2 PRAGER JOSH
Table 120 Seat 3 VICARY PAUL
Table 120 Seat 4 SHORT CHRISTOPHER T.
Table 120 Seat 5 BARTHOLOMEW SHANE
Table 120 Seat 6 STILLMAN JOSEPH
Table 120 Seat 7 MINTER JAKE I
Table 120 Seat 8 KANTER AARON P.
Table 120 Seat 9 BROWN JOHN R.
Table 121 Seat 1 FLISBERG NIKLAS E
Table 121 Seat 2 AWAD HANI
Table 121 Seat 3 YOUSEFZADEH MEHRDAD
Table 121 Seat 5 HIRSCH YAKOV
Table 121 Seat 6 KANG WEBBER L.
Table 121 Seat 7 SAMOUNA IMAD
Table 121 Seat 8 VU TUAN ANH
Table 121 Seat 9 ABESAMIS ANTONIO T.
Table 122 Seat 1 NUMOTO SCOTT CHITOSHI
Table 122 Seat 2 CALDWELL FRANKLIN D.
Table 122 Seat 3 JOERGENSEN JARL
Table 122 Seat 4 LEDERER HOWARD
Table 122 Seat 5 GRAVES MARK
Table 122 Seat 6 BILNEY SARAH L.
Table 122 Seat 7 DIETRICH ALEXANDER H.
Table 122 Seat 8 HILDEBRAND PER
Table 122 Seat 9 LOUIS LO
Table 123 Seat 1 TRAN JUSTIN
Table 123 Seat 2 EIDELMAN DMITRITY
Table 123 Seat 3 SHLEZ VADIM
Table 123 Seat 4 CALVO LUIS
Table 123 Seat 5 DROTLEFF THOMAS
Table 123 Seat 6 HOWARD JOHNNY L.
Table 123 Seat 7 DROZDOWSKI CHRIS G.
Table 123 Seat 8 TATE CONOR C.
Table 123 Seat 9 PRUGH LARRY A.
Table 124 Seat 1 KIM KEVIN H.
Table 124 Seat 2 SHABOT YOM TOV
Table 124 Seat 3 RODRIGUEZ JOSE M.
Table 124 Seat 4 SILOW OSKAR P.
Table 124 Seat 5 HILL ANTHONY
Table 124 Seat 6 ZOUDO KHALID M.
Table 124 Seat 7 FITZPATRICK 2 MATTHEW M.
Table 124 Seat 8 PHAPHONE KIT
Table 124 Seat 9 WALLS GABE
Table 125 Seat 1 BANKS GLYN W.
Table 125 Seat 2 KALMAR JONATHAN
Table 125 Seat 3 KLEIN MITCHELL
Table 125 Seat 4 GIBSON NICK
Table 125 Seat 5 HAYDEN PATRICK
Table 125 Seat 6 BUTT JAMES
Table 125 Seat 7 POLLACK JAMES L.
Table 125 Seat 8 PERRY RAFAEL L.
Table 125 Seat 9 LEIBMAN JOE
Table 126 Seat 1 CEDERCRANTZ MARTIN HANS
Table 126 Seat 2 LAUGHING JR. ANTHONY
Table 126 Seat 3 LAZAR SCOTT A.
Table 126 Seat 4 SIMMONS JR JOSEPH F.
Table 126 Seat 5 BUTAN RADU
Table 126 Seat 6 MANNETTA PAUL
Table 126 Seat 7 BROSIUS ADAM S.
Table 126 Seat 8 BERGSDORF DANIEL
Table 126 Seat 9 COLE MARK
Table 127 Seat 1 PAPPAS JOHN
Table 127 Seat 2 MADDEN PATRICK W.
Table 127 Seat 3 PNIAK TOM
Table 127 Seat 4 SANDER AMIT
Table 127 Seat 5 LINDENBERG BJORN B.
Table 127 Seat 6 ISREALASHVILI ROLAND
Table 127 Seat 7 CONNOR JOSEPH R.
Table 127 Seat 8 SALZER RUSSELL
Table 127 Seat 9 DAULAT SEAN
Table 128 Seat 2 OLSON JAMES
Table 128 Seat 3 SARTORI THOMAS A.
Table 128 Seat 4 WARE RON R.
Table 128 Seat 5 WRIGHT KEVIN
Table 128 Seat 6 CHRISTENSEN CASPER R.
Table 128 Seat 7 LANE JON
Table 128 Seat 8 FRIEDMAN ADAM
Table 128 Seat 9 WIESNER BRETT
Table 129 Seat 1 PODLEWSKI CHRIS
Table 129 Seat 2 KESSLER MICHAEL D
Table 129 Seat 3 MORALES ALEX
Table 129 Seat 4 BURT TERRENCE R.
Table 129 Seat 5 KIRSCH RICHARD
Table 129 Seat 6 KONDRACKI BRADLEY
Table 129 Seat 7 WILLIAMSON TIFFANY
Table 129 Seat 8 FITZGERALD MATT
Table 129 Seat 9 BOYD RUSSELL AARON
Table 131 Seat 1 HAMILTON JR. RUSSELL W.
Table 131 Seat 2 TENNEFOS DARRYL S.
Table 131 Seat 3 PLASTIK DAVID
Table 131 Seat 4 GRACE JOHN
Table 131 Seat 5 GEHRING DOUGLAS FREDERICK
Table 131 Seat 6 HERNANDEZ FRANK L.
Table 131 Seat 7 LARSEN ROBERT
Table 131 Seat 8 LA HUNG V.
Table 131 Seat 9 THORN RAYMI
Table 132 Seat 1 KAPLAN JASON D.
Table 132 Seat 2 LAPWOOD RICHARD
Table 132 Seat 3 MAY MICHAEL
Table 132 Seat 4 ALSANCAK AYHAN R.
Table 132 Seat 5 OBRIEN KEVIN P
Table 132 Seat 6 LEE BERNARD
Table 132 Seat 7 MCCARTHY KEVIN N.
Table 132 Seat 8 HACHEM JOSEPH
Table 132 Seat 9 HOTCHANDANI BOB
Table 134 Seat 1 FORRESTER MARK
Table 134 Seat 2 LESTER JASON N.
Table 134 Seat 3 BERRY JOE
Table 134 Seat 4 OBRIEN FRANCIS W.
Table 134 Seat 5 FISHER PAUL
Table 134 Seat 6 DANNENMANN STEVEN P.
Table 134 Seat 7 SALTNES ESPEN
Table 134 Seat 8 WATTEL MICHAEL J.
Table 134 Seat 9 CANTOR CLIFFORD
Table 136 Seat 1 STEIRMAN DAVID J.
Table 136 Seat 2 MARX STEVEN
Table 136 Seat 3 BARCH JOHN D.
Table 136 Seat 4 HOELLEIN JON C.
Table 136 Seat 5 SAVELKOUL DENNIS
Table 136 Seat 6 BROOKS RANDAL H.
Table 136 Seat 7 WATKINSON LEE H.
Table 136 Seat 8 SHANEBERGER TOM
Table 136 Seat 9 DEL GROSSO MARCELLO
Table 138 Seat 1 KING BRYANT S.
Table 138 Seat 2 RICHARDSON ERICK
Table 138 Seat 3 MCLAUGHLIN JOHN
Table 138 Seat 4 DOLLISON KUM NAN
Table 138 Seat 5 TOTH JOSEPH J
Table 138 Seat 6 MINAYA MANELIC
Table 138 Seat 7 PHAN TIM
Table 138 Seat 8 DIX DEREK
Table 138 Seat 9 MYERS TERRY D.
Table 142 Seat 1 CRIBB MICHAEL A.
Table 142 Seat 2 MENECHELLA CARMEN
Table 142 Seat 3 CAPENER MICHAEL L.
Table 142 Seat 4 TURNER ROBERT
Table 142 Seat 5 PARDEY RODNEY
Table 142 Seat 6 TENNER MARK
Table 142 Seat 7 KORAL THOMAS
Table 142 Seat 8 JAMES KENNA S.
Table 142 Seat 9 RAZI BABAK
Table 143 Seat 1 MATUSOW MICHAEL
Table 143 Seat 2 CHIOSIE JOSEPH
Table 143 Seat 3 WOOLF DUSTIN
Table 143 Seat 4 BEEVERS JOSEPH C.
Table 143 Seat 5 DEETZ STEPHEN
Table 143 Seat 6 BLACK ANDREW F.
Table 143 Seat 7 ALAEI DANIEL
Table 143 Seat 8 PRAESTTUN KJETIL
Table 143 Seat 9 RICE GREGORY B.
Table 144 Seat 1 SINGER ALAN
Table 144 Seat 2 WANG BING
Table 144 Seat 3 LAW BOBBY W.
Table 144 Seat 4 IVEY PHIL
Table 144 Seat 5 JUANDA JOHNSON
Table 144 Seat 6 BONYADI FARZAD
Table 144 Seat 7 HUA CAN KIM
Table 144 Seat 8 LOPEZ KARLO
Table 145 Seat 1 MOLLOY MICHAEL
Table 145 Seat 2 HEDLUND PETER M.
Table 145 Seat 3 PIRONE ANTHONY R.
Table 145 Seat 4 DARDEN PAUL
Table 145 Seat 5 HUBER GEORGE THOMAS
Table 145 Seat 6 MINH LY T.
Table 145 Seat 7 RICHARDSON DAVID
Table 145 Seat 8 BRYAN MARK
Table 145 Seat 9 BLANTON SEAN