1/2 nl live AA hand #1:

meleader2 · #1 10-31-2005, 12:13 AM

stacks:

hero: ~200$
villain: ~500$

both of us are seen as tight..

preflop:

hero is on CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
folded to hero who makes it 10$, villain (SB) calls

flop (19$ after rake):

K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

villain checks, hero bets 20$, villain calls.

turn (58$ after rake):

[K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

villain checks, hero bets 40$, villain makes it 140$, hero ?

meleader2 · #2 10-31-2005, 11:05 AM

bump

PinkSteel · #3 10-31-2005, 11:18 AM

How many players? Full ring, easy fold. You've got to be behind, right?

Will villain c/r a draw? Has villain seen you do a lot of continuation betting?

#4 10-31-2005, 11:24 AM

People LOVE their JT.
I fold.

-fop

Raven · #5 10-31-2005, 12:29 PM

It seem to be an easy fold to me since you decided to bet both the flop and the turn, he is telling you he is beating one pair. I would usually check one of those on a dangerous board like that. If he is capable of semi-bluff check-raising here its ok, I let him the pot, but this board look as much dangerous to him as it looks to you and you wont see a lot of bluff there.

Godfather80 · #6 10-31-2005, 12:35 PM

[ QUOTE ]
stacks:

hero: ~200$
villain: ~500$

both of us are seen as tight..

preflop:

hero is on CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
folded to hero who makes it 10$, villain (SB) calls

flop (19$ after rake):

K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

villain checks, hero bets 20$, villain calls.

turn (58$ after rake):

[K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

villain checks, hero bets 40$, villain makes it 140$, hero ?

[/ QUOTE ]

Villain is beating you... by a lot. You may not even have 2 outs.

wiggs73 · #7 10-31-2005, 01:20 PM

There are way too many holdings that it would be perfectly reasonable to think villain could have that you're behind to. I think you gotta lay this one down.

#8 10-31-2005, 01:35 PM

His preflop call...out of position and heads up should provide you enough information about his range of hands. Pretty much the only hand in his range which you beat is AK, AQ, semibluff, or a stonecold bluff. You can try to reason out a stonecold bluff if you know what the player is capable of. I would say 88, KK, QQ, KQ, and JTs are all very strong possibilities. Lay down the AA, your beat.

#9 10-31-2005, 01:55 PM

Easy fold. You beat 10's, JJ, AK, and AQ, but a tight player is not likely raising to $140 with any of those hands.

Percula · #10 10-31-2005, 02:38 PM

Fold, yell chips and buy in to the max or enough to cover him.

Raise more PF, when it folds to you in LP/CO with a big pair, you need to make it expensive for KQ, small and middle pairs and weak aces and SC's to call. I would make it something like $20 to $30 to go.

Yes 5xBB is the accpeted norm, but frankly in live play, people see $10 as cheap to take a shot at you. It's almost like a mini-raise online when you raise 3xBB to 5xBB live. The bad ones will still call the larger raise and hopefully you can out play them post flop and stack them.

BTW, I would put the villian on KQ, 99 or AK here. If you have a strong read that he has AK, call AI...