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Old 07-05-2005, 05:45 PM
outofstep outofstep is offline
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Default Doh...How should I have played this?

I thought the button was trying to blind steal so I re-raised him. Should I have just called his raise?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter

MP3 (t1525)
CO (t635)
Button (t1915)
Hero (t715)
BB (t775)
UTG (t245)
UTG+1 (t490)
MP1 (t1530)
MP2 (t170)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t70</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t250</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t1000</font>, Hero calls [t480] t250.

Final Pot: t1280
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Old 07-05-2005, 05:47 PM
ZBTHorton ZBTHorton is offline
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Default Re: Doh...How should I have played this?

If you were closer to the bubble I'd push.

I just call here.
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Old 07-05-2005, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: Doh...How should I have played this?

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If you were closer to the bubble I'd push.

I just call here.

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This is a pretty obvious and unrelated statement. The bubble is 4-5 players, and 3-4-5-6 blind levels away.

It's like saying, "I don't know, but if I were heads up with K2s, I'd push."

Sorry, this is just a very very very different situation.

And in this situation, I'd just fold preflop. too early, too many players, too much of a coinflip for too many of your chips.
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Old 07-05-2005, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: Doh...How should I have played this?

I like your play, however TT is probably the worst hand I would reraise with. What buyin level? I play the 22s, maybe you have to be tighter at higher buyins...
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Old 07-05-2005, 05:56 PM
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Default Re: Doh...How should I have played this?

Its 10+1. Thanks for all the help. I've just started playing NL SNGs today.
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: Doh...How should I have played this?

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Its 10+1. Thanks for all the help. I've just started playing NL SNGs today.

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You primarily want to play TT for set value. I'd be open limping this at level 2. So, I don't think a reraise is in order. Like I said, folding may be the best option. In the early levels of a SnG, you want to get in cheaply with premium hands, and make a lot when you hit it big. If you don't have an excellent hand, it's not worth leaking chips until you're down to T400 at 50/100, because you've been playing suited connectors UTG.
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:01 PM
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Default Re: Doh...How should I have played this?

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And in this situation, I'd just fold preflop. too early, too many players, too much of a coinflip for too many of your chips.

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If you mean before the raise...it's 40 more. That's not too many of your chips.

If you mean after the raise. You have to call ~500 to win a little over 1000. You're better than ~33% to win here.
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:05 PM
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And in this situation, I'd just fold preflop. too early, too many players, too much of a coinflip for too many of your chips.

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If you mean before the raise...it's 40 more. That's not too many of your chips.

If you mean after the raise. You have to call ~500 to win a little over 1000. You're better than ~33% to win here.

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I missed that hero was in the blinds.

I could call this, but I still might fold.

And I was only talking about the initial action.
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:24 PM
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Default Re: Doh...How should I have played this?

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Its 10+1. Thanks for all the help. I've just started playing NL SNGs today.

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You primarily want to play TT for set value. I'd be open limping this at level 2. So, I don't think a reraise is in order. Like I said, folding may be the best option. In the early levels of a SnG, you want to get in cheaply with premium hands, and make a lot when you hit it big. If you don't have an excellent hand, it's not worth leaking chips until you're down to T400 at 50/100, because you've been playing suited connectors UTG.

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I like this, although folding to the initial raise is craziness, imho. Call but dont be willing to commit many of your chips post flop unless you hit set.

To OP: what is he trying to steal? 45 chips worth of blinds? If so, he's a bigger moron than usual for even the 10+1s
Generally there is little point in defending your blinds at this level of play.
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Old 07-05-2005, 06:54 PM
Paul2432 Paul2432 is offline
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Default Re: Doh...How should I have played this?

I think you played it fine. If your opponent held AA-JJ you just got unlucky. TT is way too good of a hand to play passively here. I think your raise is fine, and the all-in call is fine.

Here is the thing, your opponents raise is a steal raise, and he could easily put you on a resteal and decide to go all-in with a wide range of hands (KQ, 99, AJ etc) expecting you to fold.

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