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Old 11-29-2005, 03:59 PM
meleader2 meleader2 is offline
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Default Bluffing live 1/2 nl tight to semi-tight players

i was playing live the other day and a weird situation came up. there were 2 to a flush on the board and there was nominal betting, then a turn check, with the flush card hitting the river.

lets assume the stacks are equal, about 200 bbs. the pot is rather large but not larger than our stacks and you do not have the flush, but rather top pair top kicker.

against a tight abc player, without position, do you:

check, push, 2/3 pot bet?

against a tight abc player, with position, checked to you do you:

push, 2/3 pot bet, check behind?

against a semi-tight player, without position do you:

check-raise, check-fold, bet 2/3 or push?

against a semi-tight player, with position, checked to you do you:

check behind, 2/3 bet then fold to a reraise?

against a semi-tight player, with position, bet into you, do you:

push? fold?



i was completely lost when that flush card hit. i really wanted to steal the pot, but to be honest, i thought a 2/3 pot bet would look like a value bet to certain opponents and a bluff to others, while the reverse could be said for a push.

all thoughts appreciated!
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Old 11-29-2005, 04:07 PM
PokerFink PokerFink is offline
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Default Re: Bluffing live 1/2 nl tight to semi-tight players

Are we assuming that our TPTK is no good?

It sounds like we have a medium sized pot and a pretty solid showdown hand. Sounds like checking behind and trying to win with TPTK is the best option.

If we assume TPTK is no good, and assuming the pot was heads-up the whole way, it's hard to bluff a flush. If your opponent has something that beats TPTK, he's probably making a crying call on the river unless he's really tight. Normally, bluffing here would be spewing. If he folds to the bluff your TPTK was probably good anyway, and you should have checked or made a thin value bet.

I find the best way to represent flushes is to check/raise when they hit the turn, especially in 3-way pots as a squeeze play.
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