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Old 10-26-2005, 11:01 PM
smurfitup smurfitup is offline
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Default really crappy turn.. really big pot... party 30-60

MP2 has been tight, but overaggro at times. No read on button except that he bought in shortstacked and seems pretty passive... probably taking a shot or something. The pot is pretty big on the turn, but I just can't see my hand being good. Comments on all streets appreciated.

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, MP2 3-bets,1 fold, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG calls, Hero caps, MP2 calls, Button calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (17.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, MP2 raises, Button calls, UTG folds, Hero 3-bets, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (13.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players) Hero bets, MP2 calls,Button raises, Hero folds, MP2 calls.

River: (18.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP2 checks, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 20.25 BB
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Old 10-26-2005, 11:07 PM
Jeffage Jeffage is offline
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Default Re: really crappy turn.. really big pot... party 30-60

I actually might not 3-bet the flop here. MP2 reraised you preflop and passive button who might be taking a shot coldcalled. I don't like that button coldcalled raise on the flop - I could see him having a set of 8's at that point or possibly not opting to cap with something like QQ preflop. I think it's not clear you're ahead, but if you are there are many cards you don't want to see slide off on the turn. I think as played you have a fold on the turn. If one of them didn't have you beat, they surely do now (AK, AQ, AJ, etc) and you're drawing to two outs if that's the case.

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