Does anyone not put their stack in with top 2 here?

[rydazzle]

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then how can you call such an awful turn card?

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you really think that villian is on a semi-bluff re-raise? c'mon, thats a longshot (even though this may be what happened). If Im hero, I think AQo and push the flop (or if I am VERY sure Im against trips based on reads, I fold). You get paid off enough from AQo here to make the call profitable I think in the long run.

[flopking]

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) converter

SB ($55.50)
BB ($25.75)
UTG ($11.80)
UTG+1 ($20.25)
MP1 ($20.95)
MP2 ($49.90)
Hero ($29.50)
CO ($4.75)
Button ($24.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.35) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $10</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $7.

Turn: ($22.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $15.5 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $15.50.

River: ($53.35) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $53.35

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I fold this hand to the flop re-raise...

A. unraised pot... lots of limpers, you have no idea what you're up against.
B. your psr on the flop indicates a great deal of strength... and you just got re-raised. AQ would definitely slow down here and re-evaluate...
C. BB is raising half a buy in... at low limits, people usually start moving their chips only with really good hands, especially sets.

I expect you got shown down QQ, JJ (which are both unlucky) or 77

[yvesaint]

If it's a set, it's only 77, unless you know for sure that the guy doesn't raise QQ/JJ.

[djoyce003]

results?

[swolfe]

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results?

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i'm predicting AQ and that this was a bad beat story... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[GoCubsGo]

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results?

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i'm predicting AQ and that this was a bad beat story... [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Nah, I wouldn't do that to you guys. He had 77. Responses seem mixed. The poster who said that players at the low limits don't put in a lot of money without a very good hand is correct, which is why I wasn't sure if I played this okay. 77 was the only logical hand that could beat me and I wasn't willing to give him credit for it. From the responses I'm getting, I guess most others pay him off as well.

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If it's a set, it's only 77, unless you know for sure that the guy doesn't raise QQ/JJ.

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In general I agree with you, but weak/tights at low limits often check QQ/JJ from the BB because unless you put in a very solid raise, you will still get action.

[jcmack13]

If it's any consolation, getting stacked with top two against bottom set isn't a leak, it's just unlucky, so at least you don't have to worry that much about how you played it.

[swolfe]

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If it's any consolation, getting stacked with top two against bottom set isn't a leak, it's just unlucky, so at least you don't have to worry that much about how you played it.

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it's not a leak to put your stack in here, but what i think a lot of people are missing is that you need to do it in such a way that you're more likely to be against hands that you're beating. pushing the flop makes it more likely that weak/marginal hands will fold, which decreases your pot equity. calling the flop and calling/pushing the turn increases your pot equity.

in this particular instance it doesn't matter because the guy had what he had and was taking the stack anyway, but he could very well have had AQ or J7 or Q7, all of which could very well fold to a flop 3-bet push.