QQ in CO capped PF

#1 10-20-2005, 10:49 PM

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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 calls, 3 folds, Hero 3-bets, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG+1 caps, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (15.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, Button folds.

Turn: (8.75 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG+1 bets

What to do here? No prior read on the player but it certainly feels like Aces.

TemetNosce · #2 10-20-2005, 11:02 PM

With no reads and heads-up, just call down with your overpair. Some opponents will play a hand like AK/AKs or JJ/TT the way your opponent has. You may be beaten by AA/KK, but you can get to showdown cheaply...

#3 10-20-2005, 11:05 PM

Reasonable range for villian: 12 AK, 6 each: AA, KK, JJ, 3 TT, 1 QQ + all other junk, which you beat. You are ahead of 18 combos (24 if you add 99, less if you think villian will play AK this way less than 100% of the time) and are losing to 15 combos (18 if you include 88).

You can stick around, but value betting or raising is thin. I would have raised the flop because I want to know where I am in the hand. As played, I think I call down turn and river.

JacksonTens · #4 10-20-2005, 11:26 PM

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No prior read on the player but it certainly feels like Aces.

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Feels like Aces? Perhaps. Most likely is AA-KK or AK.
I'd raise the flop against a typical player if 3 bet your beat and can lay it down right there. Yes this sounds weak, but if he's the player your suggesting then I feel this is correct. However, after you called the Flop, why wouldn't he bet the turn?

Against some opponents I might call down all the way, inducing bluffs with AK.

This is very opponent dependant.

JT [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

beeyjay · #5 10-20-2005, 11:35 PM

i pop the flop but then call it down.

Borodog · #6 10-20-2005, 11:36 PM

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i pop the flop but then call it down.

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#7 10-21-2005, 06:38 AM

This seems like Aces to me too. However, since I am not sure, I would check down unless a Queen hits on the river

OnkelHotte · #8 10-21-2005, 06:59 AM

hmm vs unknown villian I'd never fold my queens here. I would have raised the flop und call it down if he 3 bets me.

A fold is imho a terrible mistake!

SeaEagle · #9 10-21-2005, 07:13 AM

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Reasonable range for villian: 12 AK, 6 each: AA, KK, JJ, 3 TT, 1 QQ + all other junk, which you beat. You are ahead of 18 combos

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On the flop hero is ahead 28 to 12 (there are 16 AKs), or 22-12 if you don't count TT as a capping hand. This flop needs to be value raised, and called down if 3-bet.

#10 10-21-2005, 10:17 AM

If I raise the flop and I'm called instead of 3-bet, do I assume I'm ahead as opposed to being up against KK-AA being played weakly or opponent setting up a check-raise on the turn? Do I bet the turn if checked to? Do I raise the turn if bet into to?

Thanks for your replies.